Southern Pacific Lines
Coast Line Division
“The Route of the Octopus”
Southern Pacific Lines
Coast Line Division
“The Route of the Octopus”
General information
General Hopper Info
If it had slope sheets, it was a hopper. If no slope sheets, but having either a tight bottom or bottom doors, it was a gondola. Sloped sides are not the same as slope sheets. The latter make a car self-clearing, that is, opening the bottom doors allows ALL the cargo to depart.
Tony Thompson
It probably would be more accurate to say that if the car is "self-clearing," then it's a hopper.
Not every railroad took that into account in car classification.
Tony Thompson
Hopper CAPY
There's no relation between the CAPY number and LT WT & LD LMT. Instead, there is a NECESSARY relation between the LT WT and the LD LMT; they have ato add up to the maximum allowable weight on journals. Most 100,000=pound cars had 50-ton journals, for which the max. load is 169,000 pounds--the sum of the LD LMT and LT WT here is indeed 169,000 pounds, as it should be. This is explained lotsa places, including my RMC article on reweighing cars; it's available on line at:
http://modelingthesp.blogspot.com/2011/03/reweigh-article-from-rmc.html
Tony Thompson
Lettering & Numbering
Mis-lettering
There was a cylindrical hopper (similar to the Atlas model), with the billboard lettering "SOUTHREN PACIFIC" on one side. A partial picture of it from a visit to the Salinas yard, where the letters "THREN" and "IFIC" are visible. The reporting marks were SP 1006, previously BLCX. It lasted over a couple of years. Also, the weathering on the car is fairly substantial, leading one to think it hadn't seen the paint shop in a while.
Espee SD40R #7355 managed to leave the paint shop lettered "SUFFER N PACIFIC". Pretty doubtful it lasted on the road for very long, it was probably returned to Sacramento for re-lettering. Photos of the unit can be found here
Hoppers Codes
CHx = covered hopper. The number following the H is a capacity code unrelated to car length but related to cubic feet.
AAR Car Designation
Class “H” – HOPPER CAR TYPE
HFA – Open top, self-clearing car having fixed sides and ends and bottom consisting of divided hoppers at center with doors hinged
lengthwise, dumping outside and/or inside of rail; also one divided hopper, each end, extending from end of car to bolster with
doors hinged lengthwise of car and dumping outside of rails.
HK – Open top self-clearing car having fixed sides and ends and bottom consisting of two or more divided hoppers dumping
outside and/or inside or rails (includes former HD).
HM – Open top, self-clearing car having fixed sides and ends, and bottom consisting of two divided hoppers with doors hinged
crosswise of car and dumping between rails.
HMA – Open top, self-clearing car having fixed sides and ends and bottom consisting of two divided hoppers with doors hinged
lengthwise of car and dumping between rails (includes former HMB).
HT – Open top, self-clearing car having fixed sides and ends and bottom consisting of three or more divided hoppers with doors
hinged crosswise of car and dumping between rails.
HTA – Open top self-clearing car having fixed sides and ends and bottom consisting of three or more divided hoppers with doors
hinged lengthwise of car and dumping between rails (includes former HTB).
Specific Hopper Cars
Early Hopper Cars
CS-21 Hoppers
SP 90000-90199
SP 90500-90599
Drawings
CS-21 Design Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 395
References
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 35
CS-21A Hoppers
SP 90200-90399
SP 90600-90899
50 ton cars, built by AC&F, 1900
Drawings
CS-21A Design Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 36
References
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 35
CS-23 Hoppers
SP 90400, 90401
References
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg.
Steel Hopper Cars
H-50-1 “Conventional” Hoppers
SP 90900-91299
Drawings
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 47
References
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 44-46
H-50-2 “Conventional” Hoppers
References
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 44
H-50-3 “Conventional” Hoppers
SPdeM 14036-14135
There WERE a very small number of twin hoppers in coal service, H-50-3, but they were on the Rio Grande Division exclusively until scrapped.
Tony Thompson
References
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 44, 46
H-50-4 “Conventional” Hoppers
References
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 44
H-50-5 Ballast Hoppers
SP 13088-13487
They're only 30' long and 10' high. Very small.
Lettering & Numbering
For a lettering diagram see: Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 52
References
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 44, 47-50, 60
Modeling H-50-5
We as yet have no model that is at all close.
H-50-6 Ballast Hoppers
SP 13500-13599
Lettering & Numbering
For a lettering diagram see: Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 52
References
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 44, 51
Modeling H-50-6
Athearn
As for modeling SP’s ballast cars, the early Hart Selective cars, with very long dump doors, present a challenge. Modify an Athearn twin as a stand-in, but the slope sheet angle is too low and the doors are oversize to hide the hopper outlets. A correct car would require considerably more modification to the Athearn or other conventional twin hoppers.
H-70-2 Hart Selective Ballast Cars
SP 13600-13949
H-70-2 were all 70-ton longitudinal dumping cars (predominantly used for ballast) but although built by AC&F were not rostered as "Hart Selective" cars.
References
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 44, 53-56
Modeling H-70-2
Tichy
They have Enterprise door locks the same style modeled by the Tichy USRA hopper.
H-70-3 Hart Ballast Cars
SP 13950-14099
H-70-3 were 70-ton longitudinal dumping cars (predominantly used for ballast) but although built by AC&F were not rostered as "Hart Selective" cars.
References
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 44, 57-58
H-70-5 Hart Ballast Car offset Hoppers
SP series 440000-440229.
The H-70-5 is a standard AAR offset triple. The “conventional” cross-dumping H-70-5 were 70-ton longitudinal dumping cars (predominantly used for ballast). The H-70-5 class cars were three bay hoppers of the type that had the doors arranged crosswise to the car. They look like completely ordinary hopper cars, with Enterprise door locks (not Wine door locks). The cars were delivered with National Type B trucks.
The H-70-5 looks VERY different than a Selective Service hopper. Although built by AC&F they were not rostered as "Hart Selective" cars. They were listed as "Hart Selective" in the ORERs and "HS" in SP's '56 roster. Each pair of doors opens and dumps between the rails -- that hardly qualifies as "selective".
It used A-3 ride control trucks.
In the 1950s there were some triple hoppers in captive limestone service in Texas, classes H-70-5 and -13. Ralph Carlson has photos of two of these cars in 1947 behind a SA&AP 2-8-0 hauling limestone rock from the quarry at Beckman, Texas through San Antonio toward Houston. In later years, this was the only unit train on the SP and operated from Beckman to Houston (Corps of Engineers ban on dredging oyster shell for foundations of buildings made this service continuous to this day.)
They were likely used to haul limestone on the Beckman route, but that stone MAY have been for use as foundation material for a gas-fired powerplant in the Houston area.
If there was and is a continuing demand for the limestone rock service, that would equally tie up the cars in that service assignment.
Tony Thompson
Paint
Lettering & Numbering
By 1956 #4406 had been rebuilt and repainted with large SP "gothic" lettering.
For a lettering diagram see: Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 70
References
photo TNO #4406 SP Trainline #37 pg.10
ACF builder photo TNO #4252 Mainline Modeler 3/1995 pg.47
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 67-68
Modeling H-70-5
Accurail
Soon Accurail will offer yet another model of the same car!
Tony Thompson
The model is a much better model than the old STEWART model. (Better details, more complete. but incorrect Wine door locks.
Atlas
SP owned several varieties of side dump hoppers, but none that match the forthcoming Atlas model.
The biggest differences between these models and the H-70-5 seems to be 11 side rib braces instead of 10 and a bit of carving required around the inboard pillars to remove them, at least on the left hand end.
Bowser
The trucks look like Andrews. The Bowser kit (Davies Steel) has the screws for mounting the trucks through the frame to the body are 1/4" 256 screws. The holes are much larger. Bowser stated that the screws are supposed to be 1/2" 256. Somebody built the die with two oversized holes.
The model requires mounting Kadee #5's with the Kadee box, which is okay.
Bowser is notorious for screwing up paint schemes, especially SP paint schemes. I'd look carefully at photos and compare them to the model before buying a decorated car. The T&NO and SP cars on the Bowser web site do not look like prototype photos.
Stewart
Stewart made a very respectable model of that car (and decorated it for T&NO). The triples, if you are bold enough to model them outside Texas, are like the Stewart HO triples.
Tony Thompson
They look close (though not identical) to the T&NO cars. It would be Class H-70-5.
Visit http://bowser-trains.com/New_Products/new__stew_offset_hopper.htm
Tichy
The H-70-5 class cars were three bay hoppers of the type that had the doors arranged crosswise to the car with Enterprise door locks. These are modeled by the Tichy. The only source for the Enterprise details is TICHY.
H-70-6 Hoppers
Modeling H-70-6
Intermountain
Kato
MDC Kitbash
References
SP H-70-6, kitbashing cement hoppers from MDC PS-2's. PM Dec. 1978
H-70-7 Hopper
SP 168000-168099 (later SP #470987-471086)
Longitudinal-dumping ballast cars, post-war. Southern Pacific 34-foot 70-ton Hopper, blt 1951 by Greenville Steel Car Co.
Service date: 1952 to present. They used 70-ton Bettendorf Trucks and A-3 ride control, 1-W wheels.
This versatile and ruggedly built little hopper from Greenville. Featuring welded construction these all-steel cars were equipped with ratcheted ballast-type discharge gates which could dump to the inside of the rails, to the outside of the rails or to both sides at the same time. So well built were these cars that they are still in service today, over 45 years after entering service!
Assigned Systemwide. Service includes: Sand; Rock and Aggregate; Ballast and General MofW. These cars were however by no means limited to ballast service and were frequently used in Sand & Gravel duty.
Rob Sarberenyi
Paint
Boxcar Red.
References
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 66, 74
http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/hopper/h070-07.htm
Modeling H-70-7
Bruce’s Train Shop (now Mainline Models)
Kit #SG-20, "Southern Pacific 34-foot 70-ton Hopper"
Couplers: Kadee #5 with draft gear.
Trucks: 70-ton Bettendorf.
Paint
Boxcar Red. Note: DO NOT use Accu+Paint or most Acrylic paints as they will not adhere to the Urethane this car is made From. POLLY-S should be ok.
Lettering & Numbering
Decals:
Microscale
#87-1, 87-3 Roman data, ACI labels etc. SP general freight.
Pg.3 of the decal guide included with MICROSCALE 87-3 shows the original scheme this car was delivered in. In the early 1960's many (but not all) of the cars were re-lettered with the standard SP hopper scheme featuring the large white stacked "SOUTHERN PACIFIC" which began at the third full panel from left and ended in the last full panel. At the top of panel 2 was the medium-sized round Southern Pacific Lines herald and the car number and capacity markings were squeezed into the lower portion of panel 1.
Rob Sarberenyi
H-70-9 Hopper
SP 168100-168599
Longitudinal-dumping ballast cars, post-war.
SP purchases Classes H-70-9 and -9 Hart Ballast (70 ton) cars from ACF during the ‘40s.
It used National C-1 trucks.
References
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 66, 84
H-70-11 Hopper Ballast Car
SP 168600-168899 (#460226-460525 and #461700-461895)
Longitudinal-dumping ballast cars, post-war. The prototypes were built in 1953 by Pullman-Standard.
After World War II, SP began to buy welded ballast cars, and changed from their earlier preference for Hart Selective designs to Enterprise ballast doors. The first of these was Class H-70-11. The prototypes were built in 1953.
Tony Thompson
It used A-3 ride control trucks.
References
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 66-67, 75-76
http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/hopper/h070-11.htm
Modeling H-70-11
Bruce’s Train Shop (now Mainline Models)
This class can be modeled with the resin cars long available at Bruce’s Train Shop in Sacramento. Ignore the kit directions, which state it is a Greenville car of 1952, which is entirely wrong. The models DO include a nicely accurate Greenville 100-ton car of later years, for those interested in them.
Tony Thompson
H-70-12 (Permanente Cement Service) (3-bay hoppers)
Delivered in 1954.
T&NO H-70-12 (renumbered to SP about 1961) hoppers
short ca. 34 foot cars.
The main difference between the T&NO H-70-12's and the Pacific Lines H-70-14's is the hatch spacing on the roof.
They had round hatches, a “missing” rib between bays on the side.
Lettering & Numbering
References
H-70-13 Hopper
SP 440250-440736 ex-T&NO 4450-4949
“Conventional” cross-dumping hoppers, post-war.
Lettering & Numbering
For a lettering diagram see: Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 70
References
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 66-67, 70-71
H-70-14 Hopper (Permanente Cement Service) (3-bay hoppers)
This is a 3-bay PS-2. Delivered in 1955.
70 ton hopper around 47 feet long.
Southern Pacific purchased the H-70-14 class for lower density lading than cement, they were also used in cement service. The CU. FT. rating on the longer H-70-14 PS-2 hopper was 2893.
The main difference between the T&NO H-70-12's and the Pacific Lines H-70-14's is the hatch spacing on the roof.
They had round hatches, a “missing” rib between bays on the side.
Lettering & Numbering
Those that were converted to SPMW ballast service indeed had a load limit (red) line painted to establish the load limit. I know these lines were painted on the outside, and I believe they were also painted on the inside.
SP DTCTR
Reference
http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/hopper/h070-14.htm
Modeling H-70-14
Athearn
H-70-15 Hopper
SP 16460557-460681
Longitudinal-dumping ballast cars, post-war.
References
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 66, 77-79
H-70-16 Hopper (two-bay hoppers)
#7215 - 7299
This is a 2-bay PS-2. Delivered in 1957.
They had round hatches, a “missing” rib between bays on the side.
H-70-16 became (SPMW 7238).
The SPMW 7200 series ballast hoppers where re-built from former DRGW PS-2 covered cement hoppers.
Nils Gustavson.
Paint
Hoppers were delivered in 1957 lettered in three different colors (red, black & yellow)
Lettering & Numbering
These cars were delivered with the round SP emblem in the second panel.
Those that were converted to SPMW ballast service indeed had a load limit (red) line painted to establish the load limit. I know these lines were painted on the outside, and they were also painted on the inside.
SP DTCTR
The cars interior had red warning lines painted on the insides, so the cars wouldn't be overloaded, easily accomplished with dense
payloads.
Mel Perry
References
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 138, 139
Modeling H-70-16
Kadee
H-70-17 Hopper
SP 460682-461431
Longitudinal-dumping ballast cars, post-war.
References
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 66, 80-81
H-70-18 Hopper (two-bay hoppers)
PS -2 type. Delivered in 1957.
They had round hatches, a “missing” rib between bays on the side.
H-70-18 became (SPMW 7272).
Lettering & Numbering
Those that were converted to SPMW ballast service indeed had a load limit (red) line painted to establish the load limit. I know these lines were painted on the outside, and I believe they were also painted on the inside.
SP DTCTR
References
H-70-19 Hopper
GACX lease cars may have been given class H-70-19.
H-70-20 Hopper
These were 3500 ft3 Dry Flo T&NO cars of class H-70-20. See the class page: http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/hopper/h070-20.htm
H-70-21 SP Airslides
SP #403000-403014 were classed H-70-21.
Reference
Quite a few photos of this small class are on the class page at the following:
http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/hopper/h070-21.htm
Modeling H-70-21 SP Airslides
Con-Cor
H-70-23 SP General American Airslide Hoppers
series 403000-403014 blt 1961? GACC H-70-?
series 403025-403049 blt 1965 GACC H-70-23
series 403080-403104 blt 1966 GACC H-70-23
The SP had a fleet of these 50 feet long airslide hoppers both in SP and SSW. Espee owned 180 of the 2600 cu. ft. cars (early/late not specified), 26 of the 3600 cu. ft., and 91 of the 4180 cu. ft. cars (figures circa 1984).
Grain would not be a commodity carried in Airslide cars. Powdered and extremely small granulated substances, such as flour and sugar were commonly carried in these cars. Holly, Union Sugar and Spreckels were heavy users for bulk sugar. There are undoubtedly other substances as well that would be loaded in them. The technology was developed to haul cement; then GATC bought the originating company.
The unloading mechanism used air to "liquify" (I think I'm using the GATX terminology correctly) and move the load out of the car. Grain would be too coarse to permit the air to move them.
Airslide monograph for 2600 cu.ft. airslides leased by the SP.
GACX series 42917- 42932 blt 1957 GACC (large logo)
GACX series 43411- 43429 blt 1958 GACC
GACX series 43502- 43504 blt ? GACC
GACX series 44053- 44058 blt 1959 GACC
Paint
SP covered hoppers were painted grey and aluminum with yellow lettering assigned to carbon black service.
Lettering & Numbering
The grey SP covered hoppers came with yellow lettering assigned to carbon black service.
Reference
4 photos of class H-70-23 at URL:
http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/hopper/h070-23.htm
Drawing
The Dec 86 MM has an article with scale drawing and photos of the 2600 foot early (1954) car. This is followed in Jan 87 MM with a second article, including photos, a drawing of a 1965 production car, and a roster of owners.
Modeling 70 ton PS-2 2 Bay Covered Hopper
Con-Cor SP Airslides
Some are lettered in what is called the "Original Scheme", e. g., GACX 42238, new 4-54, 70T car, with Southern Pacific spelled out on one line in small (12"-16"?) black lettering, and the rest of the data in black. The others are represented by GACX 43515, new 4-57, 70T car, with large red lettering, Southern over Pacific w/the P below the U in Southern, and the rest of the data in black.
Lettering & Numbering
Yellow lettering.
Decals
Champ
Champ HC-435 had this lettering.
Microscale
Microscale also makes a set with yellow lettering, 87-270.
H-70-25 SP General American Airslide Hoppers
series 403105-403204 blt 1968 GACC
H-100-2 Hopper
SP #480000-480193 (ex-T&NO 8000-8199)
Thsese are 43-foot 90-ton Hoppers,, blt 1960 by Pacific Car & Foundry.
Service date: 1968 to 1990.
These are three bay open hoppers with slightly larger than normal end platforms. They used Barber S-2 100 ton trucks.
Originally assigned to the Gulf Coast area for Sulfur service but later released to systemwide for General Service including Western Division Sand and Aggregate service as well as some MofW service. They were being used in salt or sand service along the peninsula, for either Leslie or Morton. If it was sand service, that was taken over by Granite Rock in the 80's .They seem to have run in "priority" unit trains.
Rich Christie
Paint
The H-100-2's were aluminum built for T&NO originally.
Lettering & Numbering
They were delivered in a mixture, with different cars having black, yellow or red lettering, just like the PS-2 cars.
Tony Thompson
For a lettering diagram see: Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 86
References
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 82-85
http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/hopper/h100-02.htm
Modeling H-100-2 Hopper Cars
Bruces Train Shop (now Mainline Models)
Kit #SG-15, "Southern Pacific 43-foot 90-ton Hopper".
Couplers pockets are designed for Intermountain couplers.
Trucks: Intermountain #HORB-100 Barber S-2 100 ton trucks. These trucks are highly recommended for this car as they are 100% accurate very reasonably priced and best of all they are equalized!
Rob Sarberenyi
Paint
Approx. Reefer gray. Some cars lightened in service while others darkened depending on service. DO NOT use Accu+Paint or most acrylic paints as they will not adhere to the Urethane this model is made from. Polly-S should be ok.
Walther’s
SP cars, like H-100-2, can be modeled from the new Walther's Greenville.
Lettering & Numbering
Decals
Microscale
Microscale decals set will cover a couple of the cars offered by Bruces, including the aluminum H-100-2 cars (which had black, yellow, or red lettering), along with other misc. Use Microscale set 87-1214 lettering for this car.
MICROSCALE #87-1 Roman data, ACI labels etc.
*87239 Black lettering
*87270 Red and yellow lettering
*Note: (These sheets originally intended for covered hoppers but the size and style of lettering is also correct for this car.)
H-100-4 Hopper
SP 463000-463499
Longitudinal-dumping ballast cars, post-war.
Southern Pacific 100-Ton 34' All-Purpose Hopper, blt. 1961 AC&F.
Service date: 1961 to 1995.
Because of the 100 ton rating, the cars were equipped with Barber S-2 100-ton roller-bearing trucks with 36” wheels.
Over the years these cars carried many commodities and were always mixed together with the 70-ton versions in trains, making the height difference quite noticeable. Assigned Systemwide. Service included: Sand; Rock and Aggregate; Ballast and General MofW.
Rob Sarberenyi
Paint
Boxcar Red.
References
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 66, 87
http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/hopper/h100-04.htm
Modeling H-100-4 Hopper Cars
Bruces Train Shop (now Mainline Models)
Kit #SG-25 “Southern Pacific 100-Ton 34' All-Purpose Hopper”
Couplers: Kadee #5 with draft gear.
Trucks: Intermountain #HORB-100 Barber S-2 100 ton trucks. These trucks are highly recommended for this car as they are 100% accurate very reasonably priced and best of all they are equalized!
Rob Sarberenyi
Paint
Boxcar Red. Note: DO NOT use Accu+Paint or most Acrylic paints as they will not adhere to the Urethane this car is made from. POLLY-S should be ok.
Lettering & Numbering
Decals
Microscale
MICROSCALE # 87-1 Roman data, ACI labels etc.
# 87-3 SP general freight
H-100-10 Hopper
SP 467500-467549
“Conventional” cross-dumping hoppers, post-war.
References
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 66, 91
H-100-11 Hopper
SP 463500-463749
SP 463750-463999
Longitudinal-dumping ballast cars, post-war.
References
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 66, 88-91
Covered Hoppers
PS-2 50 ton covered cement hoppers
SP 402300-402312.
The cars were a small group of 50 ton covr'd hoppers acquired between 1963 and 1965. They were 40' IL with 3050 ft3. They may have been second hand cars.
Paint
SP covered hoppers were painted light gray or box car red, or natural aluminum.
Earliest covered hoppers seemed to be gray.
There were no black PS-2 covered hoppers or PS-2-like cars.
SP covered hoppers painted black with yellow lettering assigned to carbon black service.
Lettering & Numbering
Gray covered hoppers in ’56 had Red lettering.
They did put yellow lettering on gray CH cars.
Tony Thompson
References
Mainline Modeler Jul. 1991
Tom Vanden Bosch article Prototype Modeler Aug. 1977
Both contain several photos of cars with the bold black lettering. The articles are *very* comprehensive, and even today, can be considered "the" articles to reference when building Espee PS-2 covered hoppers.
Also view Freight Cars Journal issue #65, however, those are Pullman-Standard builder photos, and thus not the bold SOUTHERN PACIFIC lettering.
Modeling 50 ton PS-2 Covered Hopper
Atlas
They make a very nice version of this car. They have done SP in the past but would be hard to find.
MDC
Use the MDC kit as a starting point.
Kadee
The Amarillo Railroad Museum has been working with Kadee for over a year to produce their PS-2 two-bay covered hoppers with Southern Pacific lettering. These are gray with red lettering.
Lettering & Numbering
Decals
Reletter several Kadee PS-2 hoppers in the large black Gothic (?) lettering. You won’t find suitable decals. The Microscale decals for the 2 and 3 bay covered hoppers are too small. The 40' airslide decals are close enough to use but you’ll have to buy two sets of decals for every car.
Modeling Reference
Tom Vanden Bosch article Prototype Modeler 12/1978
Article pertained to ACF/General American hoppers only, not PS-2's. But the author used the MDC kit as a starting point (no one made the ACF or GA cars in 1978).
H-50-7 Hoppers
SP 90600-90601
Lettering & Numbering
For a lettering diagram see:
References
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 94
H-50-8 Hoppers
SP 90590-90593
It used A-3 ride control trucks, 1-W wheels.
Lettering & Numbering
For a lettering diagram see:
References
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 94, 124
H-50-9 Hoppers
SP 400006
Lettering & Numbering
For a lettering diagram see:
References
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 94, 122
H-50-10 Hoppers
SP
References
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 154, 164
70 ton PS-2 2 Bay Covered Hopper
Paint
Gray CH cars.
There were no black PS-2 or PS-2-like cars.
Tony Thompson
Lettering & Numbering
They did put yellow lettering on gray CH cars (yeah, great contrast, esp in B&W photos).
Tony Thompson
Drawing
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 140
Modeling 70 ton PS-2 2 Bay Covered Hopper
Bowser
Bodies are nice, lettering is incorrect.
MDC / Roundhouse
PS2 70 ton hoppers are not the most wonderful models out there. However when one considers the price difference between the MDC car and the $30.00 for a Kadee car, if one is planning on a large fleet, they have to be considered.
Jim Providnza wrote on upgrading MDC cars. It's in the December 1992 Model Railroad Craftsman.
Kadee
Lettering & Numbering
Decals
Champ
They offered yellow lettering decals for a black covered hopper. The decal company may not have been accurate and may have mistakenly advised modelers to paint the cars black. Champ set, number HC-435.
Microscale
Microscale 87-270. The detail sheet has a picture of a 3 bay covered hopper. The note reads: SOUTHERN PACIFIC COVERED HOPPER.
Modeling Reference
Jim Providenza wrote on upgrading MDC cars. It's in the December 1992 Model Railroad Craftsman.
H-70-3A Hoppers
SP #14100-14111
Lettering & Numbering
For a lettering diagram see:
References
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 94, 123
H-70-4 Covered Hoppers (*see H-70-4 Cement Hoppers below)
SP #
SP's first covered hoppers were the H-70-4 class, built by GATC in 1946 and used in cement service.
It used 1-W wheels.
Lettering & Numbering
References
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 93, 94
Drawing
Trainline, No. 115, pg. 33
Modeling H-70-4 Hoppers
MDC Kitbash
References
SP H-70-4, kitbashing cement hoppers from MDC PS-2's. PM Dec. 1978
H-70-8 Hoppers
SP 165000-165174
SP H-70-8’s are 1958 cubic foot LO hoppers. The main spotting features are the 1958 ft3 capacity and the eight square hatches.
See the following for more info: http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/bytype/hopper/1958lo.htm
It used A-3 ride control, 1-W wheels.
Paint
The as-delivered paint scheme shows all cars delivered in gray paint, None of the cars were ORIGINALLY painted in BCR. A photo of H-70-8 #165058 on page 255 in Ed Kaminski's ACF book shows it is definitely gray in August 1951. However, weathering of paint in later years sometimes exposed so much primer that it looked like the original car color; and there are a couple of extant photos which DO look like a real BCR paint job. This was never on the paint & lettering diagrams, and whether some shop occasionally did this remains as a possibility. But it was never the official scheme.
Information from Microscale's sheet with 87-270, SP Covered Hoppers 1948-1960 indicates at least some of these cars were originally painted in boxcar red with either white or yellow lettering.
Lettering & Numbering
Most of the ACF & General American cars were delivered in a black lettering scheme. Some (if not all) of the 2 bay PS-2 cars were delivered with the red lettering. These schemes coexisted in the mid to late 1950's and well into the 1960's. Red lettering was first used around 1955.
The as-delivered scheme shows all cars delivered in with Southern Pacific spelled out in small black letters above the reporting marks, and a black or black/white Sunset logo at the right end of the car side.
Photos of original cars seem to be hard to come by. Most other photos, even if they're of one of the above classes, have been taken after the 1955-1956 renumbering, usually with the larger Sans Serif lettering and the new number, w/o Sunset logo.
Concerning the lettering style change, the small "railroad Romanesque" lettering before the 1956 renumbering, and the larger Sans Serif lettering after, but this may not be so, or at least, the divide between the two styles may not be as distinct as up to/after such-and-such a year. Builder photos of all classes confirm it. The large sans-serif lettering was first applied to a box car in July, 1955. That fall, it began to be applied to the fleet generally. As the 1956 renumbering was also soon underway, an awful lot of cars got both new numbers and the new scheme in 1956-1958. Only one of these classes with side cutouts is H-70-10.
The lettering style (ESPECIALLY if there is still a medallion) would have to be pre-1957. But do remember that SP kept the reporting marks in Roman even when the sans-serif road name "emblem" was applied.
Tony Thompson
There is a photo in the Coast Line Pictorial of grey hoppers with red lettering, behind a steam loco, on their way to the Kaiser Permanente plant. The car in the photo is an H-70-8 built in 1951.
For a lettering diagram see: Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 100, 114
References
A photo of H-70-8 #165058 Ed Kaminski's ACF book page 255 shows it is gray in August 1951.
Coast Line Pictorial
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg.94, 110-113,118
Drawing
Trainline, No. 115, pg. 33
Modeling H-70-8 Hoppers
MDC Kitbash
References
SP H-70-8, kitbashing cement hoppers from MDC PS-2's. PM Dec. 1978 -
H-70-10 Covered Hopper
SP 165175-165324
On SP classes H-70-10 are 1958 cubic foot LO hoppers. The H-70-10's had the triangular cutout in the sides.
Class H-70-10 had open sides and double latches.
It used A-3 ride control.
Paint
As-delivered paint scheme shows all cars delivered in gray paint.
Lettering & Numbering
As-delivered, Southern Pacific spelled out in small black letters above the reporting marks, and a black or black/white Sunset logo at the right end of the car side. These cars were all renumbered in the mid 1950's to the 400,000 series.
Reference
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg.94, 115-116,127
PM Dec. 1978 - SP H-70-4/6/8/10, kitbashing cement hoppers from MDC PS-2's.
Modeling H-70-10
Bowser
It is a crude version.
Tony Thompson
Intermountain
They are doing an accurate 1958 cu. ft. car, the "square hatch" hopper of the steam era. I compared the photos of that class with the Intermountain car, and it looked to be the same. The car has the scale-size grab irons and handrails similar to the Kadee PS-2.
Tony Thompson
MDC Kitbash
References
SP H-70-10, kitbashing cement hoppers from MDC PS-2's. PM Dec. 1978
H-70-12 Covered Hoppers
SP #401825-402047 ex T&NO 3675-3899
Paint
Lettering & Numbering
Reference
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 131, 133
H-70-14 PS-2 Covered Hoppers
SP #400750-401099
Both SP and SSW had Pullman-Standard PS-2 three-bay covered hoppers with 2893 cu ft.
Paint
Gray.
Lettering & Numbering
Red lettering when delivered.
Drawing
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 140
Reference
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 132-133
Modeling H-70-14
Athearn
Accurate.
Lettering & Numbering
Red lettering.
H-70-14A Covered Hoppers
SP #400886, 401064
SP converted 25 H-70-14 by raising the sides 12” for hauling malt.
Paint
Gray.
Lettering & Numbering
MALT SERVICE ONLY, lettering.
Drawing
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 140
Reference
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 134, 135
H-70-16 Covered Hopper
SP #401100-401549.
These were 70 ton two bay covered hoppers. They were delivered with roller bearing trucks.
Lettering & Numbering
These and sported the smaller sans serif lettering and had the small roman lettering with the line above the road name.
Reference
Thom Vanden Bosch excellent article on SP covered hoppers. Prototype Modeler, August 1977 and December 1978
(6 pages)only two photos of Espee cars Mainline Modeler, July 1991
Additional photos of SP/SSW two-bay hoppers: Freight Cars Journal No. 32, "Southern Pacific/Cotton Belt Covered Hoppers"
You'll find a comprehensive roster of all SP/SSW hopper cars constructed. Pages 6 and 7 include six stacked photos (3 per page) of broadside views of SP two-bay hoppers: 401108, 401279, 401333, 401444. The article includes more views of other classes of hopper cars as well, it's very much worth finding this issue!
A few nice 70's era photos of these cars at the following page: http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/bytype/hopper/ps2003lo.htm
Additionally, more b&w photos: Freight Cars Journal No. 65 is devoted to:
"The Pullman-Standard Builders Photo Collection,Part One- Cars of the D&RGW, SP and SSW"
Page 7, SP 401211
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 130, 136, 138
Modeling H-70-16
Kadee
Kadee's HO scale H-70-16 PS-2 two-bay covered hopper is gorgeous! It’s decorated for Southern Pacific PS-2 hoppers with TWO additional road numbers. The lettering is dead-on accurate.
Kadee HO scale custom http://www.amarillorailmuseum.com/southern_pacific_cement_hoppers.html
MDC / Roundhouse
The Roundhouse covered hopper cars are pretty crude by today's modeling standards.
H-70-18 Covered Hopper
SP #401100-401549. These were 70 ton two bay covered hoppers. The H-70-18 series had roller bearing trucks as delivered in 1957 and 1958, resp.
Lettering & Numbering
The red (and yellow) lettering came along with the H-70-18.
Reference
Thom Vanden Bosch excellent article on SP covered hoppers. Prototype Modeler, August 1977 and December 1978
(6 pages)only two photos of Espee cars Mainline Modeler, July 1991
Additional photos of SP/SSW two-bay hoppers: Freight Cars Journal No. 32, "Southern Pacific/Cotton Belt Covered Hoppers"
You'll find a comprehensive roster of all SP/SSW hopper cars constructed. Pages 6 and 7 include six stacked photos (3 per page) of broadside views of SP two-bay hoppers: 401108, 401279, 401333, 401444. The article includes more views of other classes of hopper cars as well, it's very much worth finding this issue!
A few nice 70's era photos of these cars at the following page: http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/bytype/hopper/ps2003lo.htm
Additionally, more b&w photos: Freight Cars Journal No. 65 is devoted to:
"The Pullman-Standard Builders Photo Collection,Part One- Cars of the D&RGW, SP and SSW"
Page 13, SP 401472
There's an excellent article on SP covered hoppers. These go into good detail on the painting and lettering schemes these cars carried, in addition to specific details and constructing the cars.
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 130, 137, 141
Modeling H-70-18
Kadee
Accurate.
H-70-20 Covered Hopper
Reference
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 154, 158
H-70-21 Covered Hopper
Reference
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 154, 156
H-70-22 Covered Hopper
Reference
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 154, 157-159, 166
H-70-23 Covered Hopper
Reference
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 154, 160
H-70-24 Covered Hopper
Airslide
Reference
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 162
H-70-25 Covered Hopper
Reference
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 154, 161, 164
H-100-1 3-bay PS-2 Covered Hoppers
SP #490000-490099
Both SP and SSW had Pullman-Standard PS-2 three-bay covered hoppers with 3219 cu ft. capacity.
References
"The Pullman-Standard Builders Photo Collection,Part One- Cars of the D&RGW, SP and SSW" by James Kinkaid
http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/hopper/index.htm
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 143-144
H-100-5 Covered Hopper
SP #491000–491059.
The (60) SP's H-100-5 class of aluminum covered hoppers were built by AC&F in 1962. They were 6 bay aluminum cylindrical hoppers.
SP's own H-100-5 cars, which had three compartments but six outlets.
Tony Thompson
SP's own shipper literature said they were suitable for "edible and chemical commodities" and were unlined, though it is also mentioned that "a few products of a highly corrosive or abrasive nature" could not be carried were essentially an experiment in (a) lighter cars and (b) unlined cars.
Tony Thompson
They are Aluminum would doubt it in any kind of salt service (potash, Soda Ash etc). There were used for dry bulk materials about 20-40% less dense than cement (90 lbs/cu. ft.).
Examples below:
borax (60 lbs/cu. ft.) potash (70 lbs/cu. ft.)
dried ground bauxite (58 lbs/cu. ft.) pulverized phosphate (60 lbs/cu. ft.)
gypsum (70 lbs/cu. ft.)
Paint
The H-100-5's were aluminum.
Lettering & Numbering
Yellow lettering.
References
See some prototype photos at the this URL: http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/hopper/h100-05.htm
More info from: SP's Freight Car Specifications Sheet #7 and #7A at the following URL's:
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 154, 165-166
Modeling H-100-5 Silver Cyl. Hopper
Atlas
The car is based on SP's H-100-5 class of aluminum covered hoppers built by AC&F in 1962. They offers these cars in SP and SSW (example SP 491010, SSW 79020) and they check out in the OER. Atlas makes/made the H-100-5 cars with 5 loading hatches and six outlets. Kit number 1966-1.
Paint
Atlas espee silver.
Lettering & Numbering
Model of SP #491010 come in Yellow lettering.
Intermountain
This model has four outlets, SP had 6 of a different type.
H-100-6 Covered Hopper
Paint
Unpainted stainless sides.
Lettering & Numbering
The yellow lettering was original.
Reference
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 154, 170
H-100-8 Covered Hopper
Airslide
Reference
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 154, 171-173
H-100-9R PS-2CD Covered Hopper
A roster of the H-100-9 class hopper cars is provided as follows:
SP #473200-473399
SP 493000-4931991/63lot 8775SP order # P-3162
SP 493200-4933993/63lot 8790SP order # P-3167
SP 493400 1963? lot 8895
Southern Pacific "H-100-9R". Pullman-Standard originally produced these cars between 1962 and 1964, and they remained in service throughout the US, Canada, and Mexico until the early 2000s wearing both Class 1 and lease paint schemes.
These 3-bay covered hopper cars were all built to the same basic design by Pullman Standard. They all featured 3920 ft3 capacities. They were rather unusual on the SP among the vastly more numerous AC&F design cars. Many of these cars were rebuilt as H-100-9R's.
The prototype has rather a small end wall and the reporting marks just about fit in the space. The car has 6 outlets. SP cars of Class H-100-9 were NOT center-discharge cars. The SP (like so many SP) cars are a slightly different design, almost entirely accounted for by the difference in the slope sheet angle. At least it's not as huge as the difference in the ACF 2 bay 29x0 center flows.
Paint
Even though they were built in the early 1960's, the paint scheme is only valid for late 1970's onward.
Lettering & Numbering
The lettering was changed on the rebuilt cars to a smaller size and the yellow rectangle added.
References
"The Pullman-Standard Builders Photo Collection,Part One- Cars of the D&RGW, SP and SSW" by James Kinkaid
http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/hopper/index.htm
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 145, 148-150
Class pages:
http://www.railgoat .railfan. net/spcars/ byclass/hopper/ h100-09.htm
http://www.railgoat .railfan. net/spcars/ byclass/hopper/ h100-09r. htm
There is a photo of SP493418 on Lee's site under H-100-9R.
Modeling PS-2CD Covered Hopper
Tangent Scale Models
Pullman-Standard PS-2CD 4000 covered hopper. Tangent Scale Models is the first manufacturer to offer this distinctive model in HO scale plastic. Order directly from www.tangentscalemod els.com!
Features:
- 12 individual road numbers for each scheme (except CGW-CNW)
- Etched metal running boards
- Highly accurate colors, fonts, and printing
- Wire detail parts to withstand handling and provide uniform paint color
- Road-specific details
RTR models is $42.95 for one, with discounts for quantities of 6 and 12; mixing and matching of paint schemes is encouraged!
A photo of SP493418 on Lee's site, under H-100-9R, has quite different end walls than Tangents model of SP493418. The prototype has rather a small end wall whereas the model has a very large end wall. Also, the car has a capacity of 3920 cu ft, not 4000. The outlet is quite different than the one on the model.
Byron Lane
Paint
It is painted for 1979.
Weathering
The majority of cars seemed to get REALLY DIRTY over time, similar to SP's 70 ton cement cars forcing makeshift repaints of the reporting marks and numbers on many cars.
H-100-12 Covered Hoppers
SP #496000-496199
They have 3 elongated or trough hatches.
Rich Christie
Reference
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg.130-131, 146-147, 150-151
H-100-13 Covered Hopper
Airslide
Reference
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 154, 162, 173-175
H-100-14 Covered Hopper
Centerflow
Reference
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 162, 176
H-100-15 Covered Hopper
Centerflow
Reference
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 162
H-100-16 Covered Hoppers
SP #402048-402297 ex-T&NO 3675-3899
PS-2 CD
Reference
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 131
H-100-17 Covered Hopper
PS-2
Reference
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 162
H-100-18 Covered Hoppers
SP #496200-496299
Reference
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg.
Cement Hoppers
Modeling Cement Hoppers
Lettering & Numbering
Decals
Microscale
Microscale has released a significantly updated decal sheet #87-1390 for SP Pullman-Standard 2003 CuFt and ACF 1959 CuFt two-bay cement hoppers. This one sheet will now do the myriad of lettering configurations for the Espee's cement car fleet, and it even includes "ghosted" gray lettering you can use to model the significantly weathered cars where the lettering has faded/weathered away to reveal clean(er) gray paint "ghost" SP lettering, like that seen here:
http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/photos/sp/sp401404_clyde_king.jpg
Rick Selby
H-70-4 SP Cement Hoppers
SP 90802- 90901 blt 1949 GAT
SP 94305- 94404 blt 1946 GAT
On SP classes H-70-4 are 1958 cubic foot 70 ton covered LO hoppers.
The S.P. used mostly two varieties of 70 ton, two bay covered hoppers, the Pullman-Standard PS-2 and American Car and Foundry (ACF). For the 1945-1950 era, the General American cars are accurate. The types are most easily ID’d by looking at the roof hatches (though there are many other spotting feature and detail differences). The PS cars have round hatches. The ACF cars have rectangular hatches.
H-70-4 square hatch/single latch/closed sides
H-70-4 has Double Latches. None had seam caps, and all had hatches with hinges along the running board. The H-70-4 cars had paired latching bars, i.e. two per side, but all later cars had single latching bars.
Tony Thompson
This is one type of car which just shouts S.P. and solid strings could be found all over California (and on other parts of the system.
Paint
The as-delivered paint scheme shows all cars in gray paint, It appears that the cars with red lettering have a darker shade of grey. No standard gray, but the darkness varied.
Lettering & Numbering
There were two black schemes, large and small lettering. The large lettering was post-1960. There does not seem to be a pattern to which cars were which.
Southern Pacific spelled out in small black letters above the reporting marks, and a black or black/white Sunset logo at the right end of the car side.
Note the car number. The SP numbers are very condensed, and all five numbers on the H-70-4 cars were in a single panel on the car side (the left-most one); also the SP capacity data were entirely in that left panel.
Tony Thompson
Even if it was not an as built paint job it would have been a repaint pre-1956 based on the lettering scheme, but only if some shop didn't have enough gray paint on hand and used the BCR as a fill-in. None of the lettering diagrams and revisions (all of which, helpfully, remain on SP's diagrams even when canceled or superseded) show anything but gray.
SP lettering alphabet in Chapter 2. SP Freight Cars Volume 1 has the H-70-4
For a lettering diagram see: Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 100, 114
References
Excellent article on Espee covered hoppers: Prototype Modeler August 1977, and December 1978
Tom Vanden Bosch wrote some terrific articles including paint data in the old Prototype Modeler magazine.
Tony Thompson
Start with Paul Gibson at Railpub http://www.railpub.com/
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 94-101, 126
Modeling H-70-4
Atlas
The Atlas models seem to be pretty good.
Bowser
Bowser ACF cars (both open and closed sides).
SP paint and lettering is wrong. Look at the characters in the lettering. They are not even close to SP style. You can see right away that the Bowser characters are terrible.
Kadee
The new Kadee models are absolutely beautiful! If you're the industrious type, you can remove lettering as needed and either renumber them, or in some cases remove another road name and reporting marks and change to S.P. At prices ranging from the high twenties to the low thirties, the Kadee cars are the most expensive short of brass, but they are so well done. The Kadee PS cars have round hatches.
MDC
An old Prototype Modeler article gave advice on kitbashing MDC's awful PS-2. MDC/Roundhouse cars were what was mostly available in the '80s. With a little bit of weathering they're not bad models, replacing the grabs and ladders with wire would make them look a lot better. The MDC/Roundhouse PS cars models have round hatches.
If you're looking for economy, order you a case of undec MDC cars and you can start building a fleet quickly and inexpensively.
PM Dec. 1978 - SP H-70-4/6/8/10, kitbashing cement hoppers from MDC PS-2's.
Lettering & Numbering
Decals
Microscale
Be prepared to chop up some decals Microscale doesn't include everything to do these cars, Sunset logos and small Southern Pacific in black, for example. They did include lots of Sans Serif Southern Pacific in both red and yellow, with matching Sunset logos, and the small Southern Pacific in white, but with post-1956 numbers! It appears that the large block lettering included in the Microscale 87-239 set is a bit too small. This does permit reproduction of the later lettering schemes, of course. But the set rather obviously should not be labeled "1948-1960".
Tony Thompson
As Tony T. pointed out, Microscale set 87-270, listed as covering 1948-1960, does not have the earliest small black lettering needed for that time period. However, set 87-239, listed as 1960+, does. Numbers are one or two digits at a time to get into the right series, 94xxx and 90xxx for the 1946 and 1949 cars, respectively.
Modeling Reference
Jim Providnza wrote on upgrading MDC cars. It's in the December 1992 Model Railroad Craftsman.
H-70-6 SP Cement Hoppers
SP series 90602- 90801 blt 1949 ACF
SP classes H-70-6 are 1958 cubic foot LO hoppers. The S.P. used mostly two varieties of 70 ton, two bay covered hoppers, the Pullman-Standard PS-2 and American Car and Foundry (ACF). For the 1945-1950 era, the ACF are accurate. The types are most easily ID’d by looking at the roof hatches (though there are many other spotting feature and detail differences). The ACF cars have rectangular hatches and closed sides Ajax handbrake
The prototype cars had a flat side sheet over the location of the triangular opening. On some cars, there is a faint bend or ripple in the side sheet at the location of the underlying diagonal line of the slope sheet, but it is not on every car and is not very obvious.
Paint
The as-delivered paint scheme shows all cars delivered in gray paint, Southern Pacific spelled out in small black letters above the reporting marks.
Lettering & Numbering
Black or black/white Sunset logo at the right end of the car side.
Note the car number. The SP numbers are very condensed, and all five numbers on the H-70-6 cars were in a single panel on the car side (the left-most one); also the SP capacity data were entirely in that left panel.
For a lettering diagram see: Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 100, 114
Reference
Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg.94, 102-108,117
RMJ Mar. 1994 - SP H-70-6 2 Bay 1958 cu. ft. ACF Covered Hopper #400225-400424.
PM Dec. 1978 - SP H-70-4/6/8/10, kitbashing cement hoppers from MDC PS-2's.
Modeling H-70-6
Bowser
The BOWSER is best for ACF covered hoppers. www.Bowser-trains.com
E&B Valley
The E&B Valley models, while hard to find today build up into a really nice car, though they can tend to be a little bit pricey. The E&B covered hopper kit is now the Eastern Car Works covered hopper kit.
Eastern Car Works
Eastern Car Jerks makes a kit for an undecorated ACF 70T two-bay in two versions (round or square hatches), which, like a lot of their stuff, can be a bear to assemble, and still builds to a car with cast-on grabs.
Kato
Most nearly represented by the KATO covered hopper. Kato has discontinued the SP version. Cast on grabs and decals can be corrected, but the basic body has to be available. Three Kato cars (only sold in boxes of three) for a few bucks more than one Kadee car lists for. The Kato models while nice, in some respects aren't as good as the MDC models.
Kato has 70T covered hoppers available in a couple of other road names now, but they do not appear to be quite right for SP.
The side triangle area between the bays of SP 70-series cars (except the -10s) appears flat in Richard Percy's website photos. Kato cars do NOT have any indentation, but are smooth throughout the area of the triangular cutout.
Tony Thompson
These cars are all lettered for H-70-6.
Lettering & Numbering
Decals
Microscale
Be prepared to chop up some decals. Tony T. pointed out Microscale set 87-270, listed as covering 1948-1960, does not have the earliest small black lettering needed for the correct time period. However, set 87-239, listed as 1960+, does. Numbers are one or two digits at a time to get into the right series, 94xxx and 90xxx for the 1946 and 1949 cars, respectively.
H-100-23 Hoppers
SP #464000-464999
blt 1970 by Greenville
Service date: 1970 to present
These were all-welded twin bay open hoppers. Most cars were spotted at cement plants in the late 1970s.
Before that they were of several other classes of 2-bay open hoppers, photos found on Lee's website. There were also several of SP 2-bay open hoppers with smooth sides (internal ribbing), not to be confused with the three-bay T&NO hoppers.
Assigned: Systemwide. Service includes: Sand, Gravel and Ballast.
Details
Barber S-2 100 ton trucks.
Paint
Boxcar red for SP.
Reference
H-100-23 hoppers can be viewed directly at http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/hopper/h100-23.htm
http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/bytype/hopper/ps2003lo.htm
http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/bytype/hopper/ps2003lo.htm
MR Jun. 1988 - SP H-100-23 Hopper - Plans and Con-Cor Kitbash
Modeling Cement Hoppers
Atlas
Atlas also offered an HO scale 2-bay covered hopper, albeit also PS-2 with round hatches
Bowser
The Bowser cars have truly APPALLING lettering. A good model of the square hatch hoppers that’s the closest starting point is probably the MDC or Bowser kits.
Bruce’s Train Shop
In HO scale we're fortunate to have SP resin hopper kits sold through Bruce's Train Shop in Sacramento. These kits are more
R-T-R, just w/o trucks and couplers.
http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/bytype/hopper/ps2003lo.htm
http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/bytype/hopper/ps2003lo.htm
Con-Cor
MR Jun. 1988 - SP H-100-23 Hopper - Plans and Con-Cor Kitbash
ECW
The ECW kit has square hatches.
Kadee
Kadee recently offered their PS-2 two-bay covered hoppers in Espee, but these have round hatches. http://www.kadee.com/ca/ps2/8017l.htm
Strip the paint and redo 'em. Never did like their treatment of the SOUTHERN PACIFIC lettering, not to mention the SP logo looks pretty sad.
MDC
A good model of the square hatch hoppers that’s the closest starting point is probably the MDC or Bowser kits. The MDC is a round hatched model -- the PS-2, 70 ton car. The MDC is of course a welded car with round hatches, which CAN be converted to square hatches; Tom Vandenbosch's article showed how (the one on ACF hoppers) of making square hatches for the MDC kit.
Tony Thompson
Details
Detail Associates
Detail Associates offers HO scale square hatches for covered hoppers, and a few other useful parts:
#6212 Square Hatch pkg (8)
#6218 Round Hatch pkg (8)
#6229 Discharge Gate pkg (4)
#6429 Roping/Lift Tab for ACF Cars pkg (8)
Kadee Couplers
Use #5 Couplers with draft gear or equivalent.
Intermountain Trucks
Use #HORB-100 Barber S-2 100 ton trucks. These trucks are highly recommended for this car as they are 100% accurate very reasonably priced and best of all they are equalized!
Rob Sarberenyi
Paint
Paint them boxcar red for SP. DO NOT use Accu+Paint or most Acrylic paints as they will not adhere to the Urethane this car is made of. POLLY-S is ok.
Lettering & Numbering
Decals
Microscale
# 87-1 Roman data, ACI labels etc.
# 87-3 SP general freight
Herald King
#PR-127 GRANITE ROCK complete set
Modeling References
Two great articles by Tom Vanden Bosch on SP covered hoppers Prototype Modeler:August 1977 & December 1878
H-100-29 Hopper
SP #465000-465699
34-foot 105-ton Hopper, blt 1974 by Greenville.
Service date: 1974 to present
These cars have become THE hopper car of the SP! They are seen in virtually every non-unit freight train in numbers from several to entire unit trains of this car alone. Most of the hopper cars spotted at the cement plants were two-bay open hoppers, in the late 1970s.
Assigned: Systemwide. Service includes: Sand; Rock and Aggregate; Ballast and some ores. At some point these cars have hauled virtually every commodity that can be hauled in an open hopper. In addition to SP, some of the roads' on-line shippers have purchased this car including: GRANITE ROCK; KAISER STEEL; and U.S. GYPSUM. Now under UP control, these ruggedly-built cars should see service for some time to come.
Reference
H-100-29 hoppers can be viewed directly at http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/hopper/h100-29.htm
Modeling H-100-29 Hopper Cars
Bruces Train Shop (now Mainline Models)
Kit #SG-30, "Southern Pacific 34-foot 105-ton Hopper"
Walther's
SP cars, like H-100-29's, which can be modeled from the new Walther's Greenville. The Walthers cars represent a 2300 cu.ft. car. The Walthers model comes stenciled H-100-29. The Walthers car is fine for SP and Granite Rock.
Tony Thompson
Lettering & Numbering
Decals
Microscale
Microscale decals set will cover a couple of the cars offered by Bruces, including the aluminum H-100-29 cars (which had black, yellow, or red lettering), along with other misc. MICROSCALE # 87-1 Roman data, ACI labels etc. 87-3 SP general freight
Herald King
HERALD KING #PR-127 GRANITE ROCK complete set.
H-100-32 Hopper
Most of the hopper cars spotted at the cement plants were two-bay open hoppers, in the late 1970s. H-100-32 were built by PC&F in 1976.
Reference
H-100-32 hoppers can be viewed directly at http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/hopper/h100-32.htm
Modeling H-100-32 Hopper
Bruces Train Shop (now Mainline Models)
Southern Pacific 2-bay open hoppers representing several different classes are available as resin models from Bruce's Train Shop in Sacramento, CA http://brucestrainshop.com/
H-100-34 Hopper
These were mostly used for transporting sand, gravel and other non coal material. The 3 bay cars, H100-34, were used for the unit
coke train between Callander and the Trona Rwy.
Paint
The H-100-34's were all delivered painted in the SP's standard open hopper color of the time, box car red. P-S Lot 8251, dated 8-23-55, of car no. 650071. Whether there were other lots differently painted I don't know, but would be most interested to verify.
Tony Thompson
Of course a number of SSW freight cars were black, or had black ends (and sometimes roofs) It's not the '50s but looking at the pictures on Lee Gatreaux's web site it looks like the H-100-34 open hoppers were black. SP 481125 is weathered so heavily you can't tell if it's a red car with black grime or a black car with lots of red rust. SP 481144 seems to be predominantly black so it’s a guess it is black. The H-100-34's were all delivered painted in the SP's standard open hopper color of the time, box car red. These cars were evidently in service which exposed them to much dust and the photos on their class page illustrate heavily weathered cars. These cars have been used to haul potash out of Trona.
Lettering & Numbering
At least one of them is known to have been repainted in the 1990's with SP's "speed lettering" scheme.
H-100-36 Hopper
Most of the hopper cars spotted at the cement plants were two-bay open hoppers, in the late 1970s.
Reference
H-100-36 hoppers can be viewed directly at http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/hopper/h100-36.htm
A 2 bay SP hopper #466327 mixed in with the normal 3 and 4 bay coal cars.
H-100-37 Hopper
Most of the hopper cars spotted at the cement plants were two-bay open hoppers. H-100-37 were built by Greenville Steel Car in 1978-'79.
Reference
H-100-37 hoppers can be viewed directly at http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/hopper/h100-37.htm
Modeling H-100-36 Hopper
Bruces Train Shop (now Mainline Models)
Southern Pacific 2-bay open hoppers representing several different classes are available as resin models from Bruce's Train Shop in Sacramento, CA http://brucestrainshop.com/
H-100-42 Hoppers (Ortner Rapid Discharge Aggregate Cars)
Ortners have slope sheets at the car ends and are self-clearing.
Tony Thompson
Photo courtesy of Brian Moore