Southern Pacific Lines

Coast Line Division 

“The Route of the Octopus”

 
 

General information

General Hopper Info

  1. If it had slope sheets, it was a hopper. If no slope sheets, but having either a tight bottom or bottom doors, it was a gondola. Sloped sides are not the same as slope sheets. The latter make a car self-clearing, that is, opening the bottom doors allows ALL the cargo to depart.

  2. Tony Thompson


  3. It probably would be more accurate to say that if the car is "self-clearing," then it's a hopper.


  4. Not every railroad took that into account in car classification.

  5. Tony Thompson


Hopper CAPY

  1. There's no relation between the CAPY number and LT WT & LD LMT. Instead, there is a NECESSARY relation between the LT WT and the LD LMT; they have ato add up to the maximum allowable weight on journals. Most 100,000=pound cars had 50-ton journals, for which the max. load is 169,000 pounds--the sum of the LD LMT and LT WT here is indeed 169,000 pounds, as it should be. This is explained lotsa places, including my RMC article on reweighing cars; it's available on line at:


  2. http://modelingthesp.blogspot.com/2011/03/reweigh-article-from-rmc.html

  3. Tony Thompson


Lettering & Numbering

Mis-lettering

  1. There was a cylindrical hopper (similar to the Atlas model), with the billboard lettering "SOUTHREN PACIFIC" on one side. A partial picture of it from a visit to the Salinas yard, where the letters "THREN" and "IFIC" are visible. The reporting marks were SP 1006, previously BLCX. It lasted over a couple of  years. Also, the weathering on the car is fairly substantial, leading one to think it hadn't seen the paint shop in a while.


  2. Espee SD40R #7355 managed to leave the paint shop lettered "SUFFER N PACIFIC". Pretty doubtful it lasted on the road for very long, it was probably returned to Sacramento for re-lettering. Photos of the unit can be found here

  3.                                                                                 http://espee.railfan.net/sp7355.html .


Hoppers Codes

  1. CHx = covered hopper. The number following the H is a capacity code unrelated to car length but related to cubic feet.


AAR Car Designation

Class “H” – HOPPER CAR TYPE

  1. HFA – Open top, self-clearing car having fixed sides and ends and bottom consisting of divided hoppers at center with doors hinged

  2.     lengthwise, dumping outside and/or inside of rail; also one divided hopper, each end, extending from end of car to bolster with

  3.     doors hinged lengthwise of car and dumping outside of rails.

  4. HK – Open top self-clearing car having fixed sides and ends and bottom consisting of two or more divided hoppers dumping

  5.     outside and/or inside or rails (includes former HD).

  6. HM – Open top, self-clearing car having fixed sides and ends, and bottom consisting of two divided hoppers with doors hinged

  7.     crosswise of car and dumping between rails.

  8. HMA – Open top, self-clearing car having fixed sides and ends and bottom consisting of two divided hoppers with doors hinged

  9.     lengthwise of car and dumping between rails (includes former HMB).

  10. HT – Open top, self-clearing car having fixed sides and ends and bottom consisting of three or more divided hoppers with doors

  11.     hinged crosswise of car and dumping between rails.

  12. HTA – Open top self-clearing car having fixed sides and ends and bottom consisting of three or more divided hoppers with doors

  13.     hinged lengthwise of car and dumping between rails (includes former HTB).



Specific Hopper Cars

Early Hopper Cars

CS-21 Hoppers

  1. SP 90000-90199

  2. SP 90500-90599

Drawings

  1. CS-21 Design                                                    Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 395

References

  1.                                                                           Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 35


CS-21A Hoppers

  1. SP 90200-90399

  2. SP 90600-90899

  3. 50 ton cars, built by AC&F, 1900

Drawings

  1. CS-21A Design                                                  Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 36

References

  1.                                                                           Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 35


CS-23 Hoppers

  1. SP 90400, 90401

References

  1.                                                                           Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg.


Steel Hopper Cars

H-50-1 “Conventional” Hoppers

  1. SP 90900-91299

Drawings

  1.                                                                           Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 47

References

  1.                                                                           Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 44-46


H-50-2 “Conventional” Hoppers

References

  1.                                                                           Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 44


H-50-3 “Conventional” Hoppers

  1. SPdeM 14036-14135

  2. There WERE a very small number of twin hoppers in coal service, H-50-3, but they were on the Rio Grande Division exclusively until scrapped.

  3. Tony Thompson

References

  1.                                                                           Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 44, 46


H-50-4 “Conventional” Hoppers

References

  1.                                                                           Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 44


H-50-5 Ballast Hoppers

  1. SP 13088-13487

   They're only 30' long and 10' high. Very small.

Lettering & Numbering

  1. For a lettering diagram see:                                Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 52

References

  1.                                                                           Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 44, 47-50, 60

Modeling H-50-5

   We as yet have no model that is at all close.


H-50-6 Ballast Hoppers

  1. SP 13500-13599

Lettering & Numbering

  1. For a lettering diagram see:                                Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 52

References

  1.                                                                           Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 44, 51

Modeling H-50-6

Athearn

  1. As for modeling SP’s ballast cars, the early Hart Selective cars, with very long dump doors, present a challenge. Modify an Athearn twin as a stand-in, but the slope sheet angle is too low and the doors are oversize to hide the hopper outlets. A correct car would require considerably more modification to the Athearn or other conventional twin hoppers.



H-70-2  Hart Selective Ballast Cars

  1. SP 13600-13949

  2. H-70-2 were all 70-ton longitudinal dumping cars (predominantly used for ballast) but although built by AC&F were not rostered as "Hart Selective" cars.

References

  1.                                                                           Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 44, 53-56

Modeling H-70-2

Tichy

  1. They have Enterprise door locks the same style modeled by the Tichy USRA hopper.


H-70-3  Hart Ballast Cars

  1. SP 13950-14099

  2. H-70-3 were 70-ton longitudinal dumping cars (predominantly used for ballast) but although built by AC&F were not rostered as "Hart Selective" cars.

References

  1.                                                                           Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 44, 57-58


H-70-5 Hart Ballast Car offset Hoppers

  1. SP  series 440000-440229.


  2. The H-70-5 is a standard AAR offset triple. The “conventional” cross-dumping H-70-5 were 70-ton longitudinal dumping cars (predominantly used for ballast). The H-70-5 class cars were three bay hoppers of the type that had the doors arranged crosswise to the car. They look like completely ordinary hopper cars, with Enterprise door locks (not Wine door locks). The cars were delivered with National Type B trucks.


  3. The H-70-5 looks VERY different than a Selective Service hopper. Although built by AC&F they were not rostered as "Hart Selective" cars. They were listed as "Hart Selective" in the ORERs and "HS" in SP's '56 roster. Each pair of doors opens and dumps between the rails -- that hardly qualifies as "selective".


  4. It used A-3 ride control trucks.


  5. In the 1950s there were some triple hoppers in captive limestone service in Texas, classes H-70-5 and -13. Ralph Carlson has photos of two of these cars in 1947 behind a SA&AP 2-8-0 hauling limestone rock from the quarry at Beckman, Texas through San Antonio toward Houston. In later years, this was the only unit train on the SP and operated from Beckman to Houston (Corps of Engineers ban on dredging oyster shell for foundations of buildings made this service continuous to this day.) 


  6. They were likely used to haul limestone on the Beckman route, but that stone MAY have been for use as foundation material for a gas-fired powerplant in the Houston area. 

  7.           

  8. If there was and is a continuing demand for the limestone rock service, that would equally tie up the cars in that service assignment.

  9. Tony Thompson 

Paint

Lettering & Numbering

  1. By 1956 #4406 had been rebuilt and repainted with large SP "gothic" lettering.

  2. For a lettering diagram see:                                Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 70

References

  1. photo TNO #4406                                            SP Trainline #37 pg.10

  2. ACF builder photo TNO #4252                        Mainline Modeler 3/1995 pg.47

  3.                                                                           Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 67-68

Modeling H-70-5

Accurail

  1. Soon Accurail will offer yet another model of the same car!

  2. Tony Thompson 


  3. The model is a much better model than the old STEWART model. (Better details, more complete. but incorrect Wine door locks.

  4.                                   http://www.accurail.com/accurail/art/7500/7504.jpg

Atlas

  1. SP owned several varieties of side dump hoppers, but none that match the forthcoming Atlas model.


  2. The biggest differences between these models and the H-70-5 seems to be 11 side rib braces instead of 10 and a bit of carving required around the inboard pillars to remove them, at least on the left hand end.

Bowser

  1. The trucks look like Andrews. The Bowser kit (Davies Steel) has the screws for mounting the trucks through the frame to the body are 1/4" 256 screws. The holes are much larger. Bowser stated that the screws are supposed to be 1/2" 256. Somebody built the die with two oversized holes.


  1. The model requires mounting Kadee #5's with the Kadee box, which is okay.


  1. Bowser is notorious for screwing up paint schemes, especially SP paint schemes. I'd look carefully at photos and compare them to the model before buying a decorated car. The T&NO and SP cars on the Bowser web site do not look like prototype photos.

Stewart

  1. Stewart made a very respectable model of that car (and decorated it for T&NO). The triples, if you are bold enough to model them outside Texas, are like the Stewart HO triples.

  2. Tony Thompson 


  3. They look close (though not identical) to the T&NO cars. It would be Class H-70-5.    

  4. Visit                                            http://bowser-trains.com/New_Products/new__stew_offset_hopper.htm

Tichy

  1. The H-70-5 class cars were three bay hoppers of the type that had the doors arranged crosswise to the car with Enterprise door locks. These are modeled by the Tichy. The only source for the Enterprise details is TICHY.


H-70-6 Hoppers

Modeling H-70-6

Intermountain

Kato

MDC Kitbash

References

  1. SP H-70-6, kitbashing cement hoppers from MDC PS-2's.  PM Dec. 1978



H-70-7 Hopper

  1. SP 168000-168099    (later SP #470987-471086)

  2. Longitudinal-dumping ballast cars, post-war. Southern Pacific 34-foot 70-ton Hopper, blt 1951 by Greenville Steel Car Co.

  3. Service date: 1952 to present.  They used 70-ton Bettendorf Trucks and A-3 ride control, 1-W wheels.


  1. This versatile and ruggedly built little hopper from Greenville. Featuring welded construction these all-steel cars were equipped with ratcheted ballast-type discharge gates which could dump to the inside of the rails, to the outside of the rails or to both sides at the same time.  So well built were these cars that they are still in service today, over 45 years after entering service!


  2. Assigned Systemwide. Service includes: Sand; Rock and Aggregate; Ballast and General MofW. These cars were however by no means limited to ballast service and were frequently used in Sand & Gravel duty.

  3. Rob Sarberenyi

Paint

  1. Boxcar Red.

References

  1.                                                                            Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 66, 74

  2.                                                                            http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/hopper/h070-07.htm

Modeling H-70-7

Bruce’s Train Shop  (now Mainline Models)

  1. Kit #SG-20, "Southern Pacific 34-foot 70-ton Hopper"

  2. Couplers: Kadee #5 with draft gear.

  3. Trucks:  70-ton Bettendorf.

Paint

  1. Boxcar Red. Note: DO NOT use Accu+Paint or most Acrylic paints as they will not adhere to the Urethane this car is made From. POLLY-S should be ok.

Lettering & Numbering

Decals:

Microscale

  1. #87-1, 87-3  Roman data, ACI labels etc. SP general freight.

  2. Pg.3 of the decal guide included with MICROSCALE 87-3 shows the original scheme this car was delivered in. In the early 1960's many (but not all) of the cars were re-lettered with the standard SP hopper scheme featuring the large white stacked "SOUTHERN PACIFIC" which began at the third full panel from left and ended in the last full panel. At the top of panel 2 was the medium-sized round Southern Pacific Lines herald and the car number and capacity markings were squeezed into the lower portion of panel 1.

  3. Rob Sarberenyi


H-70-9 Hopper

  1. SP 168100-168599

  2. Longitudinal-dumping ballast cars, post-war.

  3. SP purchases Classes H-70-9 and -9 Hart Ballast (70 ton) cars from ACF during the ‘40s.

  4. It used National C-1 trucks.

References

  1.                                                                           Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 66, 84


H-70-11 Hopper Ballast Car

  1. SP 168600-168899        (#460226-460525 and #461700-461895)

  2. Longitudinal-dumping ballast cars, post-war. The prototypes were built in 1953 by Pullman-Standard.

  3. After World War II, SP began to buy welded ballast cars, and changed from their earlier preference for Hart Selective designs to Enterprise ballast doors. The first of these was Class H-70-11. The prototypes were built in 1953.

  4. Tony Thompson


  5. It used A-3 ride control trucks.

References

  1.                                                                           Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 66-67, 75-76

  2.                                                                           http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/hopper/h070-11.htm

Modeling H-70-11

Bruce’s Train Shop  (now Mainline Models)

  1. This class can be modeled with the resin cars long available at Bruce’s Train Shop in Sacramento. Ignore the kit directions, which state it is a Greenville car of 1952, which is entirely wrong. The models DO include a nicely accurate Greenville 100-ton car of later years, for those interested in them.

  2. Tony Thompson


H-70-12 (Permanente Cement Service)  (3-bay hoppers)

    Delivered in 1954.

  1. T&NO  H-70-12 (renumbered to SP about 1961) hoppers

  2. short ca. 34 foot cars.

  3. The main difference between the T&NO H-70-12's and the Pacific Lines H-70-14's is the hatch spacing on the roof.

  4. They had round hatches, a “missing” rib between bays on the side.

Lettering & Numbering


References

  1.                                                                           http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/hopper/h070-12.htm


H-70-13 Hopper

  1. SP 440250-440736    ex-T&NO  4450-4949

  2. “Conventional” cross-dumping hoppers, post-war.

Lettering & Numbering

  1. For a lettering diagram see:                                Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 70


References

  1.                                                                           Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 66-67, 70-71


H-70-14 Hopper  (Permanente Cement Service)  (3-bay hoppers)


  1. This is a 3-bay PS-2. Delivered in 1955.

  2. 70 ton hopper around 47 feet long.

  3. Southern Pacific purchased the H-70-14 class for lower density lading than cement, they were also used in cement service. The CU. FT. rating on the longer H-70-14 PS-2 hopper was 2893.

  4. The main difference between the T&NO H-70-12's and the Pacific Lines H-70-14's is the hatch spacing on the roof.

  5. They had round hatches, a “missing” rib between bays on the side.

Lettering & Numbering

  1. Those that were converted to SPMW ballast service indeed had a load limit (red) line painted  to establish the load limit.  I know these lines were painted on the outside, and I believe they were also painted on the inside.

  2. SP DTCTR

Reference

                                                                            http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/hopper/h070-14.htm

Modeling H-70-14

Athearn


H-70-15 Hopper

  1. SP 16460557-460681

  2. Longitudinal-dumping ballast cars, post-war.

References

  1.                                                                           Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 66, 77-79


H-70-16 Hopper  (two-bay hoppers)

    #7215 - 7299

  1. This is a 2-bay PS-2. Delivered in 1957.

  2. They had round hatches, a “missing” rib between bays on the side.


  3. H-70-16 became (SPMW 7238).


  1. The SPMW 7200 series ballast hoppers where re-built from former DRGW PS-2 covered cement hoppers.

  2. Nils Gustavson.

Paint

  1. Hoppers were delivered in 1957 lettered in three different colors (red, black & yellow)

Lettering & Numbering

  1. These cars were delivered with the round SP emblem in the second panel.

  2. Those that were converted to SPMW ballast service indeed had a load limit (red) line painted to establish the load limit. I know these lines were painted on the outside, and they were also painted on the inside.

  3. SP DTCTR


  1. The cars interior had red warning lines painted on the insides, so the cars wouldn't be overloaded, easily accomplished with dense

  2. payloads.

  3. Mel Perry

References

  1.                                                                           Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 138, 139

Modeling H-70-16

Kadee



H-70-17 Hopper

  1. SP 460682-461431

  2. Longitudinal-dumping ballast cars, post-war.

References

  1.                                                                           Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 66, 80-81


H-70-18 Hopper  (two-bay hoppers)


   PS -2 type. Delivered in 1957.

  1. They had round hatches, a “missing” rib between bays on the side.


  1. H-70-18 became (SPMW 7272).

Lettering & Numbering

  1. Those that were converted to SPMW ballast service indeed had a load limit (red) line painted to establish the load limit. I know these lines were painted on the outside, and I believe they were also painted on the inside.

  2. SP DTCTR

References


H-70-19 Hopper

  1. GACX lease cars may have been given class H-70-19.


H-70-20 Hopper

  1. These were 3500 ft3 Dry Flo T&NO cars of class H-70-20. See the class page:           http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/hopper/h070-20.htm


H-70-21 SP Airslides

  1. SP #403000-403014 were classed H-70-21. 

Reference

  1. Quite a few photos of this small class are on the class page at the following:      

  2.                                                                         http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/hopper/h070-21.htm

Modeling H-70-21 SP Airslides

Con-Cor


H-70-23 SP General American Airslide Hoppers

  1.   series 403000-403014 blt 1961? GACC H-70-?

  2.  series 403025-403049 blt 1965  GACC H-70-23

  3.  series 403080-403104 blt 1966  GACC H-70-23


  4. The SP had a fleet of these 50 feet long airslide hoppers both in SP and SSW. Espee owned 180 of the 2600 cu. ft. cars (early/late not specified), 26 of the 3600 cu. ft., and 91 of the 4180 cu. ft. cars (figures circa 1984).


  5. Grain would not be a commodity carried in Airslide cars. Powdered and extremely small granulated substances, such as flour and sugar were commonly carried in these cars. Holly, Union Sugar and Spreckels were heavy users for bulk sugar. There are undoubtedly other substances as well that would be loaded in them. The technology was developed to haul cement; then GATC bought the originating company.


  6. The unloading mechanism used air to "liquify" (I think I'm using the GATX terminology correctly) and move the load out of the car. Grain would be too coarse to permit the air to move them.


  7. Airslide monograph for 2600 cu.ft. airslides leased by the SP.

  8. GACX series  42917- 42932 blt 1957 GACC (large logo)

  9.   GACX series  43411- 43429 blt 1958 GACC

  10.   GACX series  43502- 43504 blt    ?   GACC

  11.   GACX series  44053- 44058 blt 1959 GACC

Paint

  1. SP covered hoppers were painted grey and aluminum with yellow lettering assigned to carbon black service.

Lettering & Numbering

  1. The grey SP covered hoppers came with yellow lettering assigned to carbon black service.

Reference

  1. 4 photos of class H-70-23 at URL:

  2.                                             http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/hopper/h070-23.htm

Drawing

  1. The Dec 86 MM has an article with scale drawing and photos of the 2600 foot early (1954) car. This is followed in Jan 87 MM with a second article, including photos, a drawing of a 1965 production car, and a roster of owners.

Modeling 70 ton PS-2 2 Bay Covered Hopper

Con-Cor SP Airslides

  1. Some are lettered in what is called the "Original Scheme", e. g., GACX 42238, new 4-54, 70T car, with Southern Pacific spelled out on one line in small (12"-16"?) black lettering, and the rest of the data in black. The others are represented by GACX 43515, new 4-57, 70T car, with large red lettering, Southern over Pacific w/the P below the U in Southern, and the rest of the data in black.

Lettering & Numbering

  1. Yellow lettering.

Decals

Champ

  1. Champ HC-435 had this lettering.

Microscale

  1. Microscale also makes a set with yellow lettering, 87-270.


H-70-25 SP General American Airslide Hoppers

  1.   series 403105-403204 blt 1968  GACC


H-100-2 Hopper

  1. SP #480000-480193    (ex-T&NO 8000-8199)


  2. Thsese are 43-foot 90-ton Hoppers,, blt 1960 by Pacific Car & Foundry.

  3. Service date: 1968 to 1990.

  4. These are three bay open hoppers with slightly larger than normal end platforms. They used Barber S-2 100 ton trucks.


  5. Originally assigned to the Gulf Coast area for Sulfur service but later released to systemwide for General Service including Western Division Sand and Aggregate service as well as some MofW service. They were being used in salt or sand service along the peninsula, for either Leslie or Morton. If it was sand service, that was taken over by Granite Rock in the 80's .They seem to have run in "priority" unit trains.

  6. Rich Christie

Paint

  1. The H-100-2's were aluminum built for T&NO originally.

Lettering & Numbering

  1. They were delivered in a mixture, with different cars having black, yellow or red lettering, just like the PS-2 cars.

  2. Tony Thompson


  3. For a lettering diagram see:                                Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 86

References

  1.                                                                           Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 82-85

  2.                                                                           http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/hopper/h100-02.htm

Modeling H-100-2 Hopper Cars

Bruces Train Shop   (now Mainline Models)

  1. Kit #SG-15, "Southern Pacific 43-foot 90-ton Hopper".

  2. Couplers pockets are designed for Intermountain couplers.

  3. Trucks: Intermountain #HORB-100 Barber S-2 100 ton trucks. These trucks are highly recommended for this car as they are 100% accurate very reasonably priced and best of all they are equalized!

  4. Rob Sarberenyi

Paint

  1. Approx. Reefer gray. Some cars lightened in service while others darkened depending on service. DO NOT use Accu+Paint or most acrylic paints as they will not adhere to the Urethane this model is made from. Polly-S should be ok.

Walther’s

  1. SP cars, like H-100-2, can be modeled from the new Walther's Greenville.

Lettering & Numbering

Decals

Microscale

  1. Microscale decals set will cover a couple of the cars offered by Bruces, including the aluminum H-100-2 cars (which had black, yellow, or red lettering), along with other misc. Use Microscale set 87-1214 lettering for this car.


  2. MICROSCALE #87-1 Roman data, ACI labels etc.


  3. *87239 Black lettering 

  4. *87270 Red and yellow lettering

  5.          *Note: (These sheets originally intended for covered hoppers but the size and style of lettering is also correct for this car.)


H-100-4 Hopper

  1. SP 463000-463499

  2. Longitudinal-dumping ballast cars, post-war.

  3. Southern Pacific 100-Ton 34' All-Purpose Hopper, blt. 1961 AC&F.

  4. Service date: 1961 to 1995.

  5. Because of the 100 ton rating, the cars were equipped with Barber S-2 100-ton roller-bearing trucks with 36” wheels.

  6. Over the years these cars carried many commodities and were always mixed together with the 70-ton versions in trains, making the height difference quite noticeable. Assigned Systemwide. Service included: Sand; Rock and Aggregate; Ballast and General MofW.

  7. Rob Sarberenyi

Paint

  1. Boxcar Red.

References

  1.                                                                           Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 66, 87

  2.                                                                           http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/hopper/h100-04.htm

Modeling H-100-4 Hopper Cars

Bruces Train Shop   (now Mainline Models)

  1. Kit #SG-25 “Southern Pacific 100-Ton 34' All-Purpose Hopper”

  2. Couplers:  Kadee #5 with draft gear.


  3. Trucks:  Intermountain #HORB-100 Barber S-2 100 ton trucks. These trucks are highly recommended for this car as they are 100% accurate very reasonably priced and best of all they are equalized!

  4. Rob Sarberenyi

Paint

  1. Boxcar Red. Note: DO NOT use Accu+Paint or most Acrylic paints as they will not adhere to the Urethane this car is made from. POLLY-S should be ok.

Lettering & Numbering

Decals

Microscale

  1. MICROSCALE # 87-1 Roman data, ACI labels etc.

  2. # 87-3 SP general freight


H-100-10 Hopper

  1. SP 467500-467549

  2. “Conventional” cross-dumping hoppers, post-war.

References

  1.                                                                           Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 66, 91


H-100-11 Hopper

  1. SP 463500-463749

  2. SP 463750-463999

  3. Longitudinal-dumping ballast cars, post-war.

References

  1.                                                                           Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 66, 88-91


Covered Hoppers

PS-2 50 ton covered cement hoppers

  1. SP 402300-402312.

  2. The cars were a small group of 50 ton covr'd hoppers acquired between 1963 and 1965. They were 40' IL with 3050 ft3. They may have been second hand cars.

Paint

  1. SP covered hoppers were painted light gray or box car red, or natural aluminum.

  2. Earliest covered hoppers seemed to be gray.

  3. There were no black PS-2 covered hoppers or PS-2-like cars.

  4. SP covered hoppers painted black with yellow lettering assigned to carbon black service.

Lettering & Numbering

  1. Gray covered hoppers in ’56 had Red lettering.


  2. They did put yellow lettering on gray CH cars.

  3. Tony Thompson

References

  1.                                                                                Mainline Modeler   Jul.  1991

  2. Tom Vanden Bosch article                                     Prototype Modeler Aug. 1977


  3. Both contain several photos of cars with the bold black lettering. The articles are *very* comprehensive, and even today, can be considered "the" articles to reference when building Espee PS-2 covered hoppers.


  4. Also view Freight Cars Journal issue #65, however, those are Pullman-Standard builder photos, and thus not the bold SOUTHERN PACIFIC lettering.

Modeling 50 ton PS-2 Covered Hopper

Atlas

  1. They make a very nice version of this car. They have done SP in the past but would be hard to find.

MDC

  1. Use the MDC kit as a starting point.

Kadee

  1. The Amarillo Railroad Museum has been working with Kadee for over a year to produce their PS-2 two-bay covered hoppers with Southern Pacific lettering. These are gray with red lettering.

Lettering & Numbering

Decals

  1. Reletter several Kadee PS-2 hoppers in the large black Gothic (?) lettering. You won’t find suitable decals. The Microscale decals for the 2 and 3 bay covered hoppers are too small. The 40' airslide decals are close enough to use but you’ll have to buy two sets of decals for every car.

Modeling Reference

  1. Tom Vanden Bosch article                                     Prototype Modeler 12/1978

  2. Article pertained to ACF/General American hoppers only, not PS-2's. But the author used the MDC kit as a starting point (no one made the ACF or GA cars in 1978).


H-50-7 Hoppers

  1. SP 90600-90601

Lettering & Numbering

  1. For a lettering diagram see:                                

References

  1.                                                                           Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 94


H-50-8 Hoppers

  1. SP 90590-90593

  2. It used A-3 ride control trucks, 1-W wheels.

Lettering & Numbering

  1. For a lettering diagram see:                               

References

  1.                                                                           Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 94, 124


H-50-9 Hoppers

  1. SP 400006

Lettering & Numbering

  1. For a lettering diagram see:                               

References

  1.                                                                           Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 94, 122


H-50-10  Hoppers

  1. SP

References

  1.                                                                           Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 154, 164



70 ton PS-2  2 Bay Covered Hopper

Paint

  1. Gray CH cars.


  2. There were no black PS-2 or PS-2-like cars.

  3. Tony Thompson

Lettering & Numbering

  1. They did put yellow lettering on gray CH cars (yeah, great contrast, esp in B&W photos).

  2. Tony Thompson

Drawing

  1.                                                                           Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 140

Modeling 70 ton PS-2 2 Bay Covered Hopper

Bowser

  1. Bodies are nice, lettering is incorrect.

MDC / Roundhouse

  1. PS2 70 ton hoppers are not the most wonderful models out there. However when one considers the price difference between the MDC car and the $30.00 for a Kadee car, if one is planning on a large fleet, they have to be considered.

  2. Jim Providnza wrote on upgrading MDC cars. It's in the December 1992 Model Railroad Craftsman.

Kadee

Lettering & Numbering

Decals

Champ

  1. They offered yellow lettering decals for a black covered hopper. The decal company may not have been accurate and may have mistakenly advised modelers to paint the cars black. Champ set, number HC-435.

Microscale

  1. Microscale 87-270. The detail sheet has a picture of a 3 bay covered hopper. The note reads: SOUTHERN PACIFIC COVERED HOPPER.

Modeling Reference

  1. Jim Providenza wrote on upgrading MDC cars. It's in the December 1992 Model Railroad Craftsman.


H-70-3A Hoppers

  1. SP #14100-14111

Lettering & Numbering

  1. For a lettering diagram see:                                

References

  1.                                                                              Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 94, 123


H-70-4 Covered Hoppers  (*see H-70-4 Cement Hoppers below)

  1. SP #

  2. SP's first covered hoppers were the H-70-4 class, built by GATC in 1946 and used in cement service.

  3. It used 1-W wheels.

Lettering & Numbering

References

  1.                                                                              Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 93, 94

Drawing

                                                                                Trainline, No. 115, pg. 33

Modeling H-70-4 Hoppers

MDC Kitbash

References

  1. SP H-70-4, kitbashing cement hoppers from MDC PS-2's.  PM Dec. 1978


H-70-8 Hoppers

  1. SP 165000-165174

  2. SP H-70-8’s are 1958 cubic foot LO hoppers. The main spotting features are the 1958 ft3 capacity and the eight square hatches.

  3. See the following for more info:                            http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/bytype/hopper/1958lo.htm

  4. It used A-3 ride control, 1-W wheels.

Paint

  1. The as-delivered paint scheme shows all cars delivered in gray paint, None of the cars were ORIGINALLY painted in BCR. A photo of H-70-8 #165058 on page 255 in Ed Kaminski's ACF book shows it is definitely gray in August 1951. However, weathering of paint in later years sometimes exposed so much primer that it looked like the original car color; and there are a couple of extant photos which DO look like a real BCR paint job. This was never on the paint & lettering diagrams, and whether some shop occasionally did this remains as a possibility. But it was never the official scheme.


  2. Information from Microscale's sheet with 87-270, SP Covered Hoppers 1948-1960 indicates at least some of these cars were originally painted in boxcar red with either white or yellow lettering.

Lettering & Numbering

  1. Most of the ACF & General American cars were delivered in a black lettering scheme. Some (if not all) of the 2 bay PS-2 cars were delivered with the red lettering. These schemes coexisted in the mid to late 1950's and well into the 1960's. Red lettering was first used around 1955.


  2. The as-delivered scheme shows all cars delivered in with Southern Pacific spelled out in small black letters above the reporting marks, and a black or black/white Sunset logo at the right end of the car side.


  3. Photos of original cars seem to be hard to come by. Most other photos, even if they're of one of the above classes, have been taken after the 1955-1956 renumbering, usually with the larger Sans Serif lettering and the new number, w/o Sunset logo.


  4. Concerning the lettering style change, the small "railroad Romanesque" lettering before the 1956 renumbering, and the larger Sans Serif lettering after, but this may not be so, or at least, the divide between the two styles may not be as distinct as up to/after such-and-such a year. Builder photos of all classes confirm it. The large sans-serif lettering was first applied to a box car in July, 1955. That fall, it began to be applied to the fleet generally. As the 1956 renumbering was also soon underway, an awful lot of cars got both new numbers and the new scheme in 1956-1958.  Only one of these classes with side cutouts is H-70-10.


  5. The lettering style (ESPECIALLY if there is still a medallion) would have to be pre-1957. But do remember that SP kept the reporting marks in Roman even when the sans-serif road name "emblem" was applied.

  6. Tony Thompson


  7. There is a photo in the Coast Line Pictorial of grey hoppers with red lettering, behind a steam loco, on their way to the Kaiser Permanente plant. The car in the photo is an H-70-8 built in 1951.


  1. For a lettering diagram see:                                Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 100, 114

References

  1. A photo of H-70-8 #165058                              Ed Kaminski's ACF book page 255 shows it is gray in August 1951.

  2.                                                                           Coast Line Pictorial

  3.                                                                           Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg.94, 110-113,118

Drawing

                                                                                Trainline, No. 115, pg. 33

Modeling H-70-8 Hoppers

MDC Kitbash

References

  1. SP H-70-8, kitbashing cement hoppers from MDC PS-2's.  PM Dec. 1978 -



H-70-10  Covered Hopper

    SP 165175-165324

  1. On SP classes H-70-10 are 1958 cubic foot LO hoppers. The H-70-10's had the triangular cutout in the sides.

  2. Class H-70-10 had open sides and double latches.

  3. It used A-3 ride control.

Paint

  1. As-delivered paint scheme shows all cars delivered in gray paint.

Lettering & Numbering

  1. As-delivered, Southern Pacific spelled out in small black letters above the reporting marks, and a black or black/white Sunset logo at the right end of the car side. These cars were all renumbered in the mid 1950's to the 400,000 series. 

Reference

  1.                                                                           Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg.94, 115-116,127

  2. PM Dec. 1978 - SP H-70-4/6/8/10, kitbashing cement hoppers from MDC PS-2's.


Modeling H-70-10

Bowser

  1. It is a crude version.

  2. Tony Thompson

Intermountain

  1. They are doing an accurate 1958 cu. ft. car, the "square hatch" hopper of the steam era. I compared the photos of that class with the Intermountain car, and it looked to be the same. The car has the scale-size grab irons and handrails similar to the Kadee PS-2.

  2. Tony Thompson

MDC Kitbash

References

  1. SP H-70-10, kitbashing cement hoppers from MDC PS-2's.  PM Dec. 1978



H-70-12  Covered Hoppers

    SP #401825-402047   ex T&NO 3675-3899

Paint

Lettering & Numbering

Reference

  1.                                                                           Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 131, 133


H-70-14  PS-2 Covered Hoppers

    SP #400750-401099

  1. Both SP and SSW had Pullman-Standard PS-2 three-bay covered hoppers with 2893 cu ft.

Paint

  1. Gray.

Lettering & Numbering

  1. Red lettering when delivered.

Drawing

  1.                                                                           Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 140

Reference

  1.                                                                           Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 132-133

Modeling H-70-14

Athearn

   Accurate.

Lettering & Numbering

   Red lettering.


H-70-14A  Covered Hoppers

    SP #400886, 401064

    SP converted 25 H-70-14 by raising the sides 12” for hauling malt.

Paint

  1. Gray.

Lettering & Numbering

  1. MALT SERVICE ONLY, lettering.

Drawing

  1.                                                                           Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 140

Reference

  1.                                                                           Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 134, 135


H-70-16 Covered Hopper

  1. SP #401100-401549.

  2. These were 70 ton two bay covered hoppers. They were delivered with roller bearing trucks.

Lettering & Numbering

  1. These and sported the smaller sans serif lettering and had the small roman lettering with the line above the road name.

Reference

  1. Thom Vanden Bosch excellent article on SP covered hoppers.     Prototype Modeler, August 1977  and December 1978

  2. (6 pages)only two photos of Espee cars                                        Mainline Modeler, July 1991


  3. Additional photos of SP/SSW two-bay hoppers:        Freight Cars Journal No. 32, "Southern Pacific/Cotton Belt Covered Hoppers"

  4. You'll find a comprehensive roster of all SP/SSW hopper cars constructed. Pages 6 and 7 include six stacked photos (3 per page) of broadside views of SP two-bay hoppers:  401108, 401279, 401333, 401444. The article includes more views of other classes of hopper cars as well, it's very much worth finding this issue!


  5. A few nice 70's era photos of these cars at the following page:     http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/bytype/hopper/ps2003lo.htm


  6. Additionally, more b&w photos:                                                 Freight Cars Journal No. 65 is devoted to:

  7.                                                    "The Pullman-Standard Builders Photo Collection,Part One- Cars of the D&RGW, SP and SSW"

  8.                                       Page 7, SP 401211


  9.                                                                              Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 130, 136, 138

Modeling H-70-16

Kadee

  1. Kadee's HO scale H-70-16 PS-2 two-bay covered hopper is gorgeous! It’s decorated for Southern Pacific PS-2 hoppers with TWO additional road numbers. The lettering is dead-on accurate.

  2. Kadee HO scale custom                 http://www.amarillorailmuseum.com/southern_pacific_cement_hoppers.html

MDC / Roundhouse

  1. The Roundhouse covered hopper cars are pretty crude by today's modeling standards.


H-70-18 Covered Hopper

  1. SP #401100-401549. These were 70 ton two bay covered hoppers. The H-70-18 series had roller bearing trucks as delivered in 1957 and 1958, resp.

Lettering & Numbering

  1. The red (and yellow) lettering came along with the H-70-18.

Reference

  1. Thom Vanden Bosch excellent article on SP covered hoppers.     Prototype Modeler, August 1977  and December 1978

  2. (6 pages)only two photos of Espee cars                                        Mainline Modeler, July 1991


  3. Additional photos of SP/SSW two-bay hoppers:        Freight Cars Journal No. 32, "Southern Pacific/Cotton Belt Covered Hoppers"

  4. You'll find a comprehensive roster of all SP/SSW hopper cars constructed. Pages 6 and 7 include six stacked photos (3 per page) of broadside views of SP two-bay hoppers:  401108, 401279, 401333, 401444. The article includes more views of other classes of hopper cars as well, it's very much worth finding this issue!


  5. A few nice 70's era photos of these cars at the following page:     http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/bytype/hopper/ps2003lo.htm


  6. Additionally, more b&w photos:                                                 Freight Cars Journal No. 65 is devoted to:

  7.                                                    "The Pullman-Standard Builders Photo Collection,Part One- Cars of the D&RGW, SP and SSW"

  8.                                       Page 13, SP 401472

  9. There's an excellent article on SP covered hoppers. These go into good detail on the painting and lettering schemes these cars carried, in addition to specific details and constructing the cars.


  1.                                                                           Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 130, 137, 141

Modeling H-70-18

Kadee

   Accurate.


H-70-20 Covered Hopper

Reference

  1.                                                                           Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 154, 158


H-70-21 Covered Hopper

Reference

  1.                                                                           Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 154, 156


H-70-22 Covered Hopper

Reference

  1.                                                                       Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 154, 157-159, 166


H-70-23 Covered Hopper

Reference

  1.                                                                           Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 154, 160


H-70-24 Covered Hopper

  1. Airslide

Reference

  1.                                                                           Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 162


H-70-25 Covered Hopper

Reference

  1.                                                                           Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 154, 161, 164


H-100-1  3-bay PS-2 Covered Hoppers

    SP #490000-490099

  1. Both SP and SSW had Pullman-Standard PS-2 three-bay covered hoppers with 3219 cu ft. capacity.

References

  1.                        "The Pullman-Standard Builders Photo Collection,Part One- Cars of the D&RGW, SP and SSW" by James Kinkaid

  2.                                           http://www.dgcasdorph.com/index.html

  3.                                           http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/hopper/index.htm

  4.                                           http://www.pbase.com/espeef5/sp_freight_cars

  5.                                                                             Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 143-144



H-100-5 Covered Hopper

  1. SP #491000–491059.


  2. The (60) SP's H-100-5 class of aluminum covered hoppers were built by AC&F in 1962. They were 6 bay aluminum cylindrical hoppers.


   SP's own H-100-5 cars, which had three compartments but six outlets.

   Tony Thompson


  1. SP's own shipper literature said they were suitable for "edible and chemical commodities" and were unlined, though it is also mentioned that "a few products of a highly corrosive or abrasive nature" could not be carried were essentially an experiment in (a) lighter cars and (b) unlined cars.

  2. Tony Thompson


  3. They are Aluminum would doubt it in any kind of salt service (potash, Soda Ash etc). There were used for dry bulk materials about 20-40% less dense than cement (90 lbs/cu. ft.).

  4. Examples below:

  5. borax (60 lbs/cu. ft.)                     potash (70 lbs/cu. ft.)

  6. dried ground bauxite (58 lbs/cu. ft.)            pulverized phosphate (60 lbs/cu. ft.)

  7. gypsum (70 lbs/cu. ft.)

Paint

  1. The H-100-5's were aluminum.

Lettering & Numbering

  1. Yellow lettering.

References

  1. See some prototype photos at the this URL:     http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/hopper/h100-05.htm

  2. More info from:                                               SP's Freight Car Specifications Sheet #7 and #7A at the following URL's:

  3.                                http://espee.railfan.net/sp_fcss/sp_fcss-07.html

  4.                                http://espee.railfan.net/sp_fcss/sp_fcss-07a.html

  5.                                                                          Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 154, 165-166

Modeling H-100-5 Silver Cyl. Hopper

Atlas

  1. The car is based on SP's H-100-5 class of aluminum covered hoppers built by AC&F in 1962. They offers these cars in SP and SSW (example SP 491010, SSW 79020) and they check out in the OER. Atlas makes/made the H-100-5 cars with 5 loading hatches and six outlets. Kit number 1966-1.

Paint

  1. Atlas espee silver.

Lettering & Numbering

  1. Model of SP #491010 come in Yellow lettering.

Intermountain

  1. This model has four outlets, SP had 6 of a different type.


H-100-6 Covered Hopper

Paint

  1. Unpainted stainless sides.

Lettering & Numbering

  1. The yellow lettering was original.

Reference

  1.                                                                           Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 154, 170


H-100-8 Covered Hopper

  1. Airslide

Reference

  1.                                                                           Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 154, 171-173


H-100-9R PS-2CD Covered Hopper

  1. A roster of the H-100-9 class hopper cars is provided as follows:

  2.       SP #473200-473399


SP 493000-4931991/63lot 8775SP order # P-3162

SP 493200-4933993/63lot 8790SP order # P-3167

SP 493400         1963? lot 8895


  1. Southern Pacific "H-100-9R". Pullman-Standard originally produced these cars between 1962 and 1964, and they remained in service throughout the US, Canada, and Mexico until the early 2000s wearing both Class 1 and lease paint schemes.


  2. These 3-bay covered hopper cars were all built to the same basic design by Pullman Standard. They all featured 3920 ft3 capacities. They were rather unusual on the SP among the vastly more numerous AC&F design cars. Many of these cars were rebuilt as H-100-9R's.


  1. The prototype has rather a small end wall and the reporting marks just about fit in the space. The car has 6 outlets. SP cars of Class H-100-9 were NOT center-discharge cars. The SP (like so many SP) cars are a slightly different design, almost entirely accounted for by the difference in the slope sheet angle. At least it's not as huge as the difference in the ACF 2 bay 29x0 center flows.

Paint

  1. Even though they were built in the early 1960's, the paint scheme is only valid for late 1970's onward.

Lettering & Numbering


  1. The lettering was changed on the rebuilt cars to a smaller size and the yellow rectangle added.

References

  1.                        "The Pullman-Standard Builders Photo Collection,Part One- Cars of the D&RGW, SP and SSW" by James Kinkaid

  2.                                       http://www.dgcasdorph.com/index.html

  3.                                       http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/hopper/index.htm

  4.                                       http://www.pbase.com/espeef5/sp_freight_cars


  1.                                                                         Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 145, 148-150

  2. Class pages:

  3.                                                                             http://www.railgoat .railfan. net/spcars/ byclass/hopper/ h100-09.htm

  4.                                                                             http://www.railgoat .railfan. net/spcars/ byclass/hopper/ h100-09r. htm


  5. There is a photo of SP493418 on Lee's site under H-100-9R.

Modeling PS-2CD Covered Hopper

Tangent Scale Models

  1. Pullman-Standard PS-2CD 4000 covered hopper. Tangent Scale Models is the first manufacturer to offer this distinctive model in HO scale plastic. Order directly from                 www.tangentscalemod els.com!


  2. Features:

  3. - 12 individual road numbers for each scheme (except CGW-CNW)

  4. - Etched metal running boards

  5. - Highly accurate colors, fonts, and printing

  6. - Wire detail parts to withstand handling and provide uniform paint color

  7. - Road-specific details


  8. RTR models is $42.95 for one, with discounts for quantities of 6 and 12; mixing and matching of paint schemes is encouraged!


  9. A photo of SP493418 on Lee's site, under H-100-9R, has quite different end walls than Tangents model of SP493418. The prototype has rather a small end wall whereas the model has a very large end wall. Also, the car has a capacity of 3920 cu ft, not 4000. The outlet is quite different than the one on the model.

  10. Byron Lane

Paint

  1. It is painted for 1979.

Weathering

  1. The majority of cars seemed to get REALLY DIRTY over time, similar to SP's 70 ton cement cars forcing makeshift repaints of the reporting marks and numbers on many cars.


H-100-12  Covered Hoppers

    SP #496000-496199


  1. They have 3 elongated or trough hatches.

  2. Rich Christie

Reference

  1.                                                          Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg.130-131, 146-147, 150-151


H-100-13  Covered Hopper

  1. Airslide

Reference

  1.                                                                       Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 154, 162, 173-175


H-100-14  Covered Hopper

  1. Centerflow

Reference

  1.                                                                           Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 162, 176


H-100-15  Covered Hopper

  1. Centerflow

Reference

  1.                                                                           Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 162


H-100-16  Covered Hoppers

    SP #402048-402297    ex-T&NO 3675-3899

  1. PS-2 CD

Reference

  1.                                                                           Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 131


H-100-17  Covered Hopper

  1. PS-2

Reference

  1.                                                                           Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 162


H-100-18  Covered Hoppers

    SP #496200-496299

Reference

  1.                                                                           Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg.


Cement Hoppers

Modeling Cement Hoppers

Lettering & Numbering

Decals

Microscale

  1. Microscale has released a significantly updated decal sheet #87-1390 for SP Pullman-Standard 2003 CuFt and ACF 1959 CuFt two-bay cement hoppers. This one sheet will now do the myriad of lettering configurations for the Espee's cement car fleet, and it even includes "ghosted" gray lettering you can use to model the significantly weathered cars where the lettering has faded/weathered away to reveal clean(er) gray paint "ghost" SP lettering, like that seen here:

  2.                                                                         http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/photos/sp/sp401404_clyde_king.jpg

  3. Rick Selby


H-70-4 SP  Cement Hoppers

  1. SP  90802- 90901 blt 1949 GAT

  2. SP  94305- 94404 blt 1946 GAT


  3. On SP classes H-70-4 are 1958 cubic foot 70 ton covered LO hoppers.


  1. The S.P. used mostly two varieties of 70 ton, two bay covered hoppers, the Pullman-Standard PS-2 and American Car and Foundry (ACF). For the 1945-1950 era, the General American cars are accurate. The types are most easily ID’d by looking at the roof hatches (though there are many other spotting feature and detail differences). The PS cars have round hatches. The ACF cars have rectangular hatches.


  2. H-70-4  square hatch/single latch/closed sides


  3. H-70-4  has Double Latches. None had seam caps, and all had hatches with hinges along the running board. The H-70-4 cars had paired latching bars, i.e. two per side, but all later cars had single latching bars.

  4. Tony Thompson


  1. This is one type of car which just shouts S.P. and solid strings could be found all over California (and on other parts of the system.

Paint

  1. The as-delivered paint scheme shows all cars in gray paint, It appears that the cars with red lettering have a darker shade of grey. No standard gray, but the darkness varied.

Lettering & Numbering

  1. There were two black schemes, large and small lettering. The large lettering was post-1960. There does not seem to be a pattern to which cars were which.


  2. Southern Pacific spelled out in small black letters above the reporting marks, and a black or black/white Sunset logo at the right end of the car side.


  1. Note the car number. The SP numbers are very condensed, and all five numbers on the H-70-4 cars were in a single panel on the car side (the left-most one); also the SP capacity data were entirely in that left panel.

  2. Tony Thompson


  1. Even if it was not an as built paint job it would have been a repaint pre-1956 based on the lettering scheme, but only if some shop didn't have enough gray paint on hand and used the BCR as a fill-in. None of the lettering diagrams and revisions (all of which, helpfully, remain on SP's diagrams even when canceled or superseded) show anything but gray.


  2. SP lettering alphabet in Chapter 2.                       SP Freight Cars Volume 1 has the H-70-4

  3. For a lettering diagram see:                                   Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 100, 114

References

  1. Excellent article on Espee covered hoppers:           Prototype Modeler August 1977, and December 1978

  2. Tom Vanden Bosch wrote some terrific articles including paint data in the old Prototype Modeler magazine.

  3. Tony Thompson


  4. Start with Paul Gibson at Railpub                          http://www.railpub.com/

  5.                                                                               Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 94-101, 126


Modeling H-70-4

Atlas

  1. The Atlas models seem to be pretty good.

Bowser

  1. Bowser ACF cars (both open and closed sides).

  2. SP paint and lettering is wrong. Look at the characters in the lettering. They are not even close to SP style. You can see right away that the Bowser characters are terrible. 

Kadee

  1. The new Kadee models are absolutely beautiful! If you're the industrious type, you can remove lettering as needed and either renumber them, or in some cases remove another road name and reporting marks and change to S.P. At prices ranging from the high twenties to the low thirties, the Kadee cars are the most expensive short of brass, but they are so well done. The Kadee PS cars have round hatches.

MDC

  1. An old Prototype Modeler article gave advice on kitbashing MDC's awful PS-2. MDC/Roundhouse cars were what was mostly available in the '80s. With a little bit of weathering they're not bad models, replacing the grabs and ladders with wire would make them look a lot better. The MDC/Roundhouse PS cars models have round hatches.


  2. If you're looking for economy, order you a case of undec MDC cars and you can start building a fleet quickly and inexpensively.

  3. PM Dec. 1978 - SP H-70-4/6/8/10, kitbashing cement hoppers from MDC PS-2's.

Lettering & Numbering

Decals

Microscale

  1. Be prepared to chop up some decals Microscale doesn't include everything to do these cars, Sunset logos and small Southern Pacific in black, for example. They did include lots of Sans Serif Southern Pacific in both red and yellow, with matching Sunset logos, and the small Southern Pacific in white, but with post-1956 numbers! It appears that the large block lettering included in the Microscale 87-239 set is a bit too small. This does permit reproduction of the later lettering schemes, of course. But the set rather obviously should not be labeled "1948-1960".

  2. Tony Thompson


  1. As Tony T. pointed out, Microscale set 87-270, listed as covering 1948-1960, does not have the earliest small black lettering needed for that time period. However, set 87-239, listed as 1960+, does. Numbers are one or two digits at a time to get into the right series, 94xxx and 90xxx for the 1946 and 1949 cars, respectively.

Modeling Reference

  1. Jim Providnza wrote on upgrading MDC cars. It's in the December 1992 Model Railroad Craftsman.


H-70-6 SP Cement Hoppers

  1. SP  series  90602- 90801 blt 1949 ACF  


  1. SP classes H-70-6 are 1958 cubic foot LO hoppers. The S.P. used mostly two varieties of 70 ton, two bay covered hoppers, the Pullman-Standard PS-2 and American Car and Foundry (ACF). For the 1945-1950 era, the ACF are accurate. The types are most easily ID’d by looking at the roof hatches (though there are many other spotting feature and detail differences). The ACF cars have rectangular hatches and closed sides Ajax handbrake


  1. The prototype cars had a flat side sheet over the location of the triangular opening. On some cars, there is a faint bend or ripple in the side sheet at the location of the underlying diagonal line of the slope sheet, but it is not on every car and is not very obvious.

Paint

  1. The as-delivered paint scheme shows all cars delivered in gray paint, Southern Pacific spelled out in small black letters above the reporting marks.

Lettering & Numbering

  1. Black or black/white Sunset logo at the right end of the car side.


  1. Note the car number. The SP numbers are very condensed, and all five numbers on the H-70-6 cars were in a single panel on the car side (the left-most one); also the SP capacity data were entirely in that left panel.


  2. For a lettering diagram see:                                Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg. 100, 114

Reference

  1.                                                                           Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 5: Hoppers, Tank Cars, pg.94, 102-108,117

  2. RMJ Mar. 1994 - SP H-70-6 2 Bay 1958 cu. ft. ACF Covered Hopper #400225-400424.

  3. PM Dec. 1978 - SP H-70-4/6/8/10, kitbashing cement hoppers from MDC PS-2's.


Modeling H-70-6

Bowser

  1. The BOWSER is best for ACF covered hoppers.   www.Bowser-trains.com

E&B Valley

  1. The E&B Valley models, while hard to find today build up into a really nice car, though they can tend to be a little bit pricey. The E&B covered hopper kit is now the Eastern Car Works covered hopper kit.

Eastern Car Works

  1. Eastern Car Jerks makes a kit for an undecorated ACF 70T two-bay in two versions (round or square hatches), which, like a lot of their stuff, can be a bear to assemble, and still builds to a car with cast-on grabs.

Kato

  1. Most nearly represented by the KATO covered hopper. Kato has discontinued the SP version. Cast on grabs and decals can be corrected, but the basic body has to be available. Three Kato cars (only sold in boxes of three) for a few bucks more than one Kadee car lists for. The Kato models while nice, in some respects aren't as good as the MDC models.


  2. Kato has 70T covered hoppers available in a couple of other road names now, but they do not appear to be quite right for SP.


  3. The side triangle area between the bays of SP 70-series cars (except the -10s) appears flat in Richard Percy's website photos. Kato cars do NOT have any indentation, but are smooth throughout the area of the triangular cutout.

  4. Tony Thompson


  1. These cars are all lettered for H-70-6.

Lettering & Numbering

Decals

Microscale

  1. Be prepared to chop up some decals. Tony T. pointed out Microscale set 87-270, listed as covering 1948-1960, does not have the earliest small black lettering needed for the correct time period. However, set 87-239, listed as 1960+, does. Numbers are one or two digits at a time to get into the right series, 94xxx and 90xxx for the 1946 and 1949 cars, respectively.


H-100-23 Hoppers

  1. SP #464000-464999

  2. blt 1970 by Greenville

  3. Service date: 1970 to present


  4. These were all-welded twin bay open hoppers. Most cars were spotted at cement plants in the late 1970s.


  5. Before that they were of several other classes of 2-bay open hoppers, photos found on Lee's website. There were also several of SP 2-bay open hoppers with smooth sides (internal ribbing), not to be confused with the three-bay T&NO hoppers.


  1. Assigned: Systemwide. Service includes: Sand, Gravel and Ballast.

Details

  1. Barber S-2 100 ton trucks.

Paint

  1. Boxcar red for SP.

Reference

  1. H-100-23 hoppers can be viewed directly at          http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/hopper/h100-23.htm

  2.                                             http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/bytype/hopper/ps2003lo.htm

  3.                                             http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/bytype/hopper/ps2003lo.htm

  4. MR Jun. 1988 - SP H-100-23 Hopper - Plans and Con-Cor Kitbash

Modeling Cement Hoppers

Atlas

  1. Atlas also offered an HO scale 2-bay covered hopper, albeit also PS-2 with round hatches

  2.                           http://www.atlasrr.com/HOFreight/hops2a.htm

Bowser

  1. The Bowser cars have truly APPALLING lettering. A good model of the square hatch hoppers that’s the closest starting point is probably the MDC or Bowser kits.

Bruce’s Train Shop

  1. In HO scale we're fortunate to have SP resin hopper kits sold through Bruce's Train Shop in Sacramento. These kits are more

  2. R-T-R, just w/o trucks and couplers. 

  3.                                              http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/bytype/hopper/ps2003lo.htm

  4.                                              http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/bytype/hopper/ps2003lo.htm

Con-Cor

  1. MR Jun. 1988 - SP H-100-23 Hopper - Plans and Con-Cor Kitbash

ECW

  1. The ECW kit has square hatches.

Kadee

  1. Kadee recently offered their PS-2 two-bay covered hoppers in Espee, but these have round hatches.                http://www.kadee.com/ca/ps2/8017l.htm

  2.                                    http://www.kadee.com/ca/ps2/8017l.htm

  3. Strip the paint and redo 'em. Never did like their treatment of the SOUTHERN PACIFIC lettering, not to mention the SP logo looks pretty sad.

MDC

  1. A good model of the square hatch hoppers that’s the closest starting point is probably the MDC or Bowser kits. The MDC is a round hatched model -- the PS-2, 70 ton car. The MDC is of course a welded car with round hatches, which CAN be converted to square hatches; Tom Vandenbosch's article showed how (the one on ACF hoppers) of making square hatches for the MDC kit.

  2. Tony Thompson        

Details

Detail Associates

  1. Detail Associates offers HO scale square hatches for covered hoppers, and a few other useful parts:


  2.      #6212  Square Hatch pkg (8)

  3.      #6218  Round Hatch pkg (8)

  4.      #6229  Discharge Gate pkg (4)

  5.      #6429  Roping/Lift Tab for ACF Cars pkg (8)

Kadee Couplers

  1. Use #5 Couplers with draft gear or equivalent.

Intermountain Trucks

  1. Use #HORB-100 Barber S-2 100 ton trucks. These trucks are highly recommended for this car as they are 100% accurate very reasonably priced and best of all they are equalized!

  2. Rob Sarberenyi

Paint

  1. Paint  them boxcar red for SP. DO NOT use Accu+Paint or most Acrylic paints as they will not adhere to the Urethane this car is made of. POLLY-S is ok.

Lettering & Numbering

Decals

Microscale

  1. # 87-1 Roman data, ACI labels etc.

  2. # 87-3 SP general freight

Herald King

  1. #PR-127 GRANITE ROCK complete set

Modeling References

  1. Two great articles by Tom Vanden Bosch on SP covered hoppers     Prototype Modeler:August 1977 & December 1878


H-100-29 Hopper

  1. SP #465000-465699

  2. 34-foot 105-ton Hopper, blt 1974 by Greenville.

  3. Service date: 1974 to present


  1. These cars have become THE hopper car of the SP! They are seen in virtually every non-unit freight train in numbers from several to entire unit trains of this car alone. Most of the hopper cars spotted at the cement plants were two-bay open hoppers, in the late 1970s.


  2. Assigned: Systemwide. Service includes: Sand; Rock and Aggregate; Ballast and some ores. At some point these cars have hauled virtually every commodity that can be hauled in an open hopper. In addition to SP, some of the roads' on-line shippers have purchased this car including: GRANITE ROCK; KAISER STEEL; and U.S. GYPSUM. Now under UP control, these ruggedly-built cars should see service for some time to come.

Reference

  1. H-100-29 hoppers can be viewed directly at          http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/hopper/h100-29.htm

Modeling H-100-29 Hopper Cars

Bruces Train Shop   (now Mainline Models)

  1. Kit #SG-30, "Southern Pacific 34-foot 105-ton Hopper"

Walther's

  1. SP cars, like H-100-29's, which can be modeled from the new Walther's Greenville. The Walthers cars represent a 2300 cu.ft. car. The  Walthers model comes stenciled H-100-29. The Walthers car is fine for SP and Granite Rock.

  2. Tony Thompson

Lettering & Numbering

Decals

Microscale

  1. Microscale decals set will cover a couple of the cars offered by Bruces, including the aluminum H-100-29 cars (which had black, yellow, or red lettering), along with other misc. MICROSCALE # 87-1 Roman data, ACI labels etc. 87-3 SP general freight

Herald King

  1. HERALD KING #PR-127 GRANITE ROCK complete set.



H-100-32 Hopper

  1. Most of the hopper cars spotted at the cement plants were two-bay open hoppers, in the late 1970s. H-100-32 were built by PC&F in 1976.

Reference

  1. H-100-32 hoppers can be viewed directly at          http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/hopper/h100-32.htm

  2.                                                                               http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=27308

Modeling H-100-32 Hopper

Bruces Train Shop   (now Mainline Models)

  1. Southern Pacific 2-bay open hoppers representing several different classes are available as resin models from Bruce's Train Shop in Sacramento, CA                                                        http://brucestrainshop.com/


H-100-34 Hopper

    These were mostly used for transporting sand, gravel and other non coal material. The 3 bay cars, H100-34, were used for the unit    

    coke train between Callander and the Trona Rwy.

Paint

  1. The H-100-34's were all delivered painted in the SP's standard open hopper color of the time, box car red. P-S Lot 8251, dated 8-23-55, of car no. 650071. Whether there were other lots differently painted I don't know, but would be most interested to verify.

  2. Tony Thompson  


  3. Of course a number of SSW freight cars were black, or had black ends (and sometimes roofs) It's not the '50s but looking at the pictures on Lee Gatreaux's web site it looks like the H-100-34 open hoppers were black. SP 481125 is weathered so heavily you can't tell if it's a red car with black grime or a black car with lots of red rust. SP 481144 seems to be predominantly black so it’s a guess it is black. The H-100-34's were all delivered painted in the SP's standard open hopper color of the time, box car red. These cars were evidently in service which exposed them to much dust and the photos on their class page illustrate heavily weathered cars. These cars have been used to haul potash out of Trona.

Lettering & Numbering

  1. At least one of them is known to have been repainted in the 1990's with SP's "speed lettering" scheme.


H-100-36 Hopper

  1. Most of the hopper cars spotted at the cement plants were two-bay open hoppers, in the late 1970s.

Reference

  1. H-100-36 hoppers can be viewed directly at            http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/hopper/h100-36.htm

  2. A 2 bay SP hopper #466327 mixed in with the normal 3 and 4 bay coal cars.


H-100-37 Hopper

  1. Most of the hopper cars spotted at the cement plants were two-bay open hoppers. H-100-37 were built by Greenville Steel Car in 1978-'79.

Reference

  1. H-100-37 hoppers can be viewed directly at            http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/hopper/h100-37.htm

  2.                                                                                 http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=27312

Modeling H-100-36 Hopper

Bruces Train Shop   (now Mainline Models)

  1. Southern Pacific 2-bay open hoppers representing several different classes are available as resin models from Bruce's Train Shop in Sacramento, CA                                                        http://brucestrainshop.com/


H-100-42 Hoppers  (Ortner Rapid Discharge Aggregate Cars)

  1. Ortners have slope sheets at the car ends and are self-clearing.

  2. Tony Thompson

 
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Modeling S.P. Hopper Cars
Early Hopper Cars
-CS-21, 21A, 23

Steel Hopper Cars
H-50-1, 2, 3, 4
H-70-1, 2, 3
H-70-7, 9, 11, 15, 17
H-100-4, 11

Covered Hopper Cars
H-50-7, 8, 9
H-70-3A, 4, 6, 8, 10

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