Southern Pacific Lines

Coast Line Division 

“The Route of the Octopus”

 
 

General Information

Nomenclature

  1. Some roads put "Baggage" at the baggage end, and "Chair" at the chair end. This is, indeed, how the SP handled it.

  2. See page 276 in:                                                  Southern Pacific Passenger Cars, Volume 1: Coaches and Chair Cars.



Coach - Baggage Cars

60-CB  Coach- Baggage Cars

60-CB-1 Harriman Baggage-coach Car

SP #3176

  1. A 60' Harriman Baggage-Coach (1916) 60-CB-1, ex-AE#453.


  3. SP "chair baggage" and classed as xx-CB-x. As the earliest 60-CB cars were delivered in 1915, after the Harriman era had ended, these cars are among those NOT properly called "Harrimans," but should probably be called "arch roof" cars. Pictures have some of the combines in mixed train service without diaphragms or steam and signal lines. They have curved caboose style grabs that appeared post-1950. Older photos show them with conventional passenger safety appliances.

Paint

  1. It was painted in Daylight colors. See Diagram #125 in the SPH&TS book. It was Dark Olive nearly all of its life.

  2. Tony Thompson 


  1. They also have curved caboose style grabs painted white.

Reference

  1. For more on these cars, including good photos, consult the SPH&TS book on coaches and chair cars (Volume 1 of  a series).

  2. Tony Thompson

Modeling 60-CB-1

MDC

  1. Check them out for possible kitbashing. Find a source for separate Common Standard (Harriman) roofs. The MDC cars have awfully big rivets, especially on the roof (compare any prototype photo), and even shaving them off but not sanding smooth, leaving a tiny divot where the rivet had been, looks better than what MDC molded. Use caution with the MDC bodies regarding size and placement of windows (assuming of course that you want to model an actual car). By the time you fix windows and rivets, it might not be worth the effort.



72-CB  Coach- Baggage Cars

72-CB-2

    #2022-2024

  1. A/C, Former coach Houston and Texas Central (H&TC) #462, 464, 465 (72-CB-2)

Paint

  1. Painted standard coach green with black roof  & underbody.

Lettering & Numbering

  1. With gold lettering



77-CB  Coach- Baggage Cars

77-CB-1

    #3300-3301        Chair-Baggage

    steel, seats 44, radio and antennae, news agent stand


  1. Baggage-chair #3302 is shown in the SP coach book as being retired 1971 with no further dispositions noted. Stegmaier shows this car as going to the Stockton, Terminal and Eastern. 



Chair - Baggage Cars

79-CB-1 Chair Baggage (Coast Daylight)

  1. The real cars did not have a diaphragm at the front of the car. The prototype cars did indeed have a narrow diaphragm at the baggage end. The orange band of paint went across it. Both the 77 foot and 79 foot Chair Baggage's came with a diaphragm on the baggage end but it was without the full-width extensions. The diaphragm is correct for this car. The front didn't have the full width diaphragm and the daylight orange stripes came completely around the car end.

Paint

  1. Daylight cars had the car type printed in silver at one end like "Chair", "Parlor"..etc. Did the Chair Baggage say "Chair" "Baggage" or "Chair Baggage"?

Lettering & Numbering

  1. Some roads put "Baggage" at the baggage end, and "Chair" at the chair end. This is how the SP handled it.

  2. See  Southern Pacific Passenger Cars, Volume 1: Coaches and Chair Cars, page 276

Decals

Microscale

    Use Microscale sheet #1055. #1055 says its for either the Coast Daylight or the Shasta Daylight

Modeling Southern Pacific HO Daylight Passenger Cars

    Use corrugated passengers cars.

Athearn

    Cars are not only to short (72') but they are almost Santa Fe prototype.

IHC /Rivarossi 

  1. Nobody knows what these cars are. Too long (85') for Daylight prototype.




Baggage - Dormitory Cars

Paint

  1. The 1949 baggage-dorm and baggage-postal cars had interior colors specified per P-S builder's specs. Per those P-S builder's specs, they had their:

  2.     walls painted Post Office Green synthetic gloss interior enamel, Sherwin-Williams #0-42-G-1.

  3.     ceilings were Synthetic enamel gloss white #CH-9145.

  4.     interior lettering was C.S. 22 SP Black #7.

  5.     floors were C.S. 22 Maroon #4, but not fish racks.   

  6. Jeff Cauthen


Modeling Baggage - Dorm Cars

Union Station Products

  1. #9614       Budd baggage/dorm, used on Sunset Limited



75 - BD Baggage - Dorm Cars

75 - BD Baggage - Dorm Cars

  1. #3500-3503


  1. Parts of the 12/1's were kept for the dorm section of the baggage/dorm, (i.e. some sections and a drawing room or was the drawing room removed for the baggage area).

Reference

  1.                                                                    Southern Pacific Passenger Cars Volume 2: Sleepers and Baggage-Dorms, pg. 504-513

  2.                                                                    Southern Pacific Passenger Cars, Volume 1: Coaches and Chair Cars, 276

Drawing

  1.                                                                    Southern Pacific Passenger Cars Volume 2: Sleepers and Baggage-Dorms, pg. 507, 509



79 - BD Baggage - Dorm Cars

79 - BD Baggage - Dorm Cars

  1. #3401-3405


    Former Army Hospital cars.

Reference

  1.                                                                    Southern Pacific Passenger Cars Volume 2: Sleepers and Baggage-Dorms, pg. 515-525

Drawing

  1.                                                                    Southern Pacific Passenger Cars Volume 2: Sleepers and Baggage-Dorms, pg. 517



82 - BD Baggage - Dorm Cars

82 - BD Auxiliary Baggage - Dorm Cars

  1. #3107


Reference

  1.                                                                    Southern Pacific Passenger Cars Volume 2: Sleepers and Baggage-Dorms, pg. 526-536

Drawing

  1.                                                                    Southern Pacific Passenger Cars Volume 2: Sleepers and Baggage-Dorms, pg.



83 - BD Baggage - Dorm Cars

83 - BD -1 Baggage - Dorm Cars

  1. #3100 - 3101


Reference

  1.                                                                    Southern Pacific Passenger Cars Volume 2: Sleepers and Baggage-Dorms, pg. 537-545

Drawing

  1.                                                                    Southern Pacific Passenger Cars Volume 2: Sleepers and Baggage-Dorms, pg. 538


83 - BD -2 Baggage - Dorm Cars

  1. #3102- 3106


    Used on Cascade in 1971.

Paint

  1. Simulated Stainless Steel

Reference

  1.                                                                    Southern Pacific Passenger Cars Volume 2: Sleepers and Baggage-Dorms, pg. 546-553

Drawing

  1.                                                                    Southern Pacific Passenger Cars Volume 2: Sleepers and Baggage-Dorms, pg. 548

Modeling 83 - BD -2 Baggage - Dorm Cars

Union Station

    For #3106, use Union Station #9614.


SP Police Passenger car

  1. #3104


  1. Its former SP 3104, a Budd-built baggage-dorm car for the Sunset Limited. The car was involved in a derailment on the Cascade in Jan, 1971 and was withdrawn from service and never sold to Amtrak. The SP first used it briefly as a test car SP 250 in the mid-seventies until they acquired the California Zephyr sleeper and called it SP 251. In the 1980s, the SP installed bay windows of sort and spot lights on the side for special agents to watch carloads of autos ahead. Supposedly they had ATVs on board and a ramp so they could open the baggage door, set the ramp down and chase thieves.

References

  1. SP 250 Police Car & SP Passenger Equipment Vol #3, Richard Percy

  2. Unfortunately the author of The Color Guide to SP Passenger Cars Volume # 3 relied on incorrect information from someone who is not knowledgeable of SP official cars . . .

Modeling SP Police Passenger car

Walther's

  1. Use an SP Walther's baggage dorm and apply the police decals. There are some minor differences.

Lettering & Numbering

Decals

Microscale

  1. Microscale did a sheet with markings for all the various SP Police cabeese along with markings for this particular passenger car. 



80-L Dormitory Car

80-L-1  Dormitory Car

  1. #3400

Reference

  1.                                                                    Southern Pacific Passenger Cars Volume 2: Sleepers and Baggage-Dorms, pg. 503

Drawing

  1.                                                                    Southern Pacific Passenger Cars Volume 2: Sleepers and Baggage-Dorms, pg.




Baggage - Smoker Car

ACF Baggage / Smoker

  1. SP #2934

  2. built 1937, converted  to Instruction Car SP 115 in 1955.

  3. Wau A/C added 6/37.


  5. SP #3228

  6. built 1924 by ACF, lot 9645, rebuilt to lounge car 6/37 and renumbered SP 2934.

  7. Had 6-TC-2 trucks.

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